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Allan Bedford wrote in message <01bf79b1$4ab7e040$368c2fd1@thx1138>...
> > I think it's because people who know Larry (and that's a lot of people) • know
> > that he wouldn't do something questionable on purpose[1] (or probably • even
> > accidentally, because he "doesn't make misteaks").
>
> I'm glad you used that last little quote. It highlights my point exactly.
> I've been reading LUGNET for well over a year. I read probably 30 - 40
> different messages a day, both via NNTP and the web interface. I read
> messages from all sorts of people, in all sorts of groups. But I have
> absolutely no idea what this 'misteaks' thing is, or how it relates to
> Larry and his posting abilites/priviledges.
It's a running gag. Check out:
http://www.lugnet.com/dear-lego/?n=1505
Larry is given a little more leeway than some people, but that is because of
his history as a solid contributor. There really is no way to avoid this, it
happens in any community. But that doesn't automatically excuse Larry, which
is part of Todd's point.
> So my question is, how can even newer newbies grasp what's going on, and
> understand not to follow Larry's example?
>
> > So it's not that it's OK simply because it was Larry and everything Larry
> > does is automatically OK, it's the other way around: because it was • Larry,
> > there's a much higher probability that it was OK. Now, whether or not it
> > actually *was* OK (that's open to debate) is a separate issue. But • because
> > it was Larry, and people trust Larry, it's got much less of a chance of • being
> > controversial. That's my take on it, anyway.
>
> Ummm..... you lost me at the third OK. Todd, were you a math teacher in
> another lifetime? :)
What Todd is saying is that given Larry's history, a post by him is far more
likely to be ok than a post by some random person. This does not mean that
when Larry posts something whic his not ok, that it is any better than if
someone else posted it (in fact Todd's point is that it is worse).
> So should there be a Larry P. FAQ for newbies to read, to better understand
> Larry's history within the LEGO/LUGNET/RTL community? I say this only half
> tongue-in-cheek. I wonder if sometimes these problems occur because
> someone who doesn't understand another person's background or history jumps
> on them or their postings when it isn't always appropriate?
Well, there is definitely a problem when people jump on others posts. I
think we really need to push for the policing to be done by Todd (or
preferably a small team), and ask people who have a complaint to e-mail the
moderators (or the poster), not post publicly.
I'm not sure a Larry P. FAQ is necessary, though possibly a list of the most
respected contributors might be usefull, but that would probably cause hard
feelings because someone would get left off. What newcomers should do is
read posts for some time before charging forth. If they do this, they will
see who tends to be respected more, and will see what kinds of posts are not
ok (or as I would prefer it, they won't see the not-ok posts because they
will have been canceled).
There is also some problem, which is probably starting to fade, because some
of the long time contributors carry a history from RTL. Most of those never
post to RTL anymore, which can cause even more confusion if someone comes
over from RTL. ("Why is Mr. Joe RTL Respectable getting blasted over this,
while this Larry Pienawhatever[1] guy I've never heard of is getting
complimented on his well crafted post?")
[1] Larry, you really need to change your last name to something shorter
which no one can spell, it would help your respect a lot....
Frank F. I. L. Z., no that's "F" not "P"....
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