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  Legal Comedy (was Re: 2001 Set info)
 
Dramatis Personae: Our presiding villain -- Todd. The man who is sticking to his TOS and crumpling under threats of bad legal juju. Lover of the brick. Our heroes -- posters of leaked information. More than one and also lovers of the mighty brick. (...) (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
 
  Re: 2001 Set info
 
(...) Even if they have directed it at Target- and all their other retailers- it's ridiculous for them to try and stick the cat back in the bag. What possible purpose does it serve? Why does it benefit them to have people on Lugnet not talk about (...) (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)  
 
  Re: 2001 Set info
 
(...) Todd: I realise that your best answer for this is the first thing you said here- that you aren't a lawyer- but are you really implying that discussing this information- in any way, in any forum- violates the law or infinges on TLC's rights? I (...) (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.terms)  
 
  Re: 2001 Set info
 
(...) control (...) I would agree with that too. But what I am interested in is what were the legal grounds for the censorship? Scott A (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: 2001 Set info
 
Briefly because I'm at a client site and can't chat as much as I'd like. (...) Ding ding ding! Yes! (...) I definitely and without a doubt agree that you do not do that specific thing (whatever you or I call it) here and if anyone is thinking that I (...) (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: 2001 Set info
 
(...) (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: 2001 Set info
 
(...) John, Was that a cleverly timed joke (if so, nice work! :-) or was your content clipped unintentionally by your WebTV browser? Looking at the incoming HTML-form logs, your browser appears to have chopped the text after the "an". Question: When (...) (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.nntp)
 
  Re: 2001 Set info
 
(...) (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: 2001 Set info
 
(...) I should add one thing here to clarify the context of what I mean. I'm talking of course about the newsgroups above. In contrast, the sets database is a completely different story: editorial control *is* and probably always will be exercised (...) (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: 2001 Set info
 
(...) I absolutely and vehemently disagree with the assertion that editorial control is being or has ever been exerted. Perhaps we are working from different definitions of the term...? My working definition of "editorial control" is to edit or (...) (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: 2001 Set info
 
(...) One of them I have heard of is the distinction between an open forum and an edited publication. In an open forum, slander or libel is not the fault of the proprietor, but an edited one creates an expectation of an editorial standard and the (...) (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: 2001 Set info
 
(...) He wasn't censoring as he was not removing material for moral or political reasons... he was exercising editorial control. A very important distinction. (...) (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: 2001 Set info
 
(...) We may have to agree to disagree on this but there is no difference in kind between "deleting on whim" (which I agree you should not do) and "enforcing the T&Cs" (which I think most of us strongly WANT you to do) from a legal sense. In my (...) (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Legal Legal legal
 
"James Powell" <wx732@freenet.victoria.bc.ca> wrote in message news:Fz029E.At8@lugnet.com... (...) leaked (...) talking (...) do (...) it.....why not (...) thing....we (...) keep (...) pell-mell, (...) us (...) Hmm. I didn't make that out of Tim's (...) (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
 
  Re: Legal Legal legal
 
(...) I definitely see your point. This sort of murkiness is, of course, what the civil courts of the world are for--someone has to decide if confidentiality was actually breached. I don't want to get into the wrinkles of Internet copyright law (...) (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
 
  Re: Legal Legal legal
 
"Tim Wilkins" <Tim.Wilkins@zurich.com> wrote in message news:Fyzz11.H3L@lugnet.com... (...) with (...) not (...) thing....we (...) I'm not sure if that is correct. I'm not a lawyer or anything but AFAIK there are European laws that safeguard (...) (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
 
  Re: Legal Legal legal
 
(...) Let's do an experiment. Why don't you scan and publish the information you lifted from TLG's website, and provide us publicly with the URL where it can be viewed? I'd certainly welcome it (and be the first visitor), but you'd be absolutely (...) (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
 
  Re: Legal Legal legal
 
(...) no (...) mell, are (...) Certainly not. A secret is only a secret if nobody knows about it. A leak is fair game and Target is hardly the CIA (...) By the way what is a troll ? Tim (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
 
  Re: Legal Legal legal
 
(...) with (...) no (...) are (...) No, but what he is saying is that LEGO has to contact each of us and _ask_ us to sign a NDA, which there is not a _thing_ they can do to make us sign. In other words, once the cat is out of the bag, it is too late (...) (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
 
  Re: 2001 Set info
 
(...) A Legalo man is a man who likes Lego but is concerned with Lego Legal matters. A Lego man isn't. His world is building Lego and unless Lego bring out minifig lawyers he has no interest in Lego Legal issues. Tim (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)


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