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  Seeking input on reused user parts in building instructions
 
Hi, I've decided to tackle an issue that has been on my mind for a while. LPub's handling of building instructions, where sub-model user-defined parts are used multiple times in the overall design. It all started when I was editing a DSDK model (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
Tim and Michael, I'd love to see this feature as well, although it is easy to say from the outside. We have no idea how MLCAD is orgranized, so this may be pretty hard to do, especially getting nice preview images of synthesized parts. Kevin (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
(...) an (...) the (...) so (...) Right. Keep up the good work! I am looking forward to the next version. Jaco (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
(...) Great! They are 73590A and B btw... :-) Jaco (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
(...) Not really. I tend to waver somewhere between the GPL and Public Domain, depending on how long it's been since I've had trouble with piece of closed software. Of the few licences here (URL) I've read, the zlib license is the shortest, and I do (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
Hi Ahui, You do not need to use an editor to add these coments. Lsynth compensates for MLCAD's WRITE statements, by ignoring the WRITE keywoard. Two things to examine: 1. LSynth is case sensitive, so SYNTH is not the same as synth. 2. If you are (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
Has anyone besides Kevin been able to get LSynth to work? I can get it to run the examples.mpd file but when ever I get my own file it does nothing? I have added the comments in a text editor (since MLCAD adds the WRITE statements to commets) and (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
Hi Don, I have no idea what license to choose. Do you have a recommendation? Kevin (...) <snip> (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
(...) Sure, send it along. I think the only sticky point that should be resolved before creating the project is the source code license. (I say "sticky" because we seem to have gotten stuck there with the parts library and a recent attempt to get (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
(...) I STRONGLY suggest to Michael he work on a plugin architecture for MLCAD and publish the specs. Then anyone can write MLCAD plugins without Michael having to do all of the work to integrate the 3rd party generators. It should free up some time (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
Hi Dave, I'll have to look when I'm home to figure out what to do here. I think it looks in C:\LDRAW, and/or looks for an LDRAW environment variable to be set. I think it depends on the same environment variable L3P depends on, but I'm not sure. (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
(...) installed" error when I try to install LSynth 2.0. This is especially baffling to me, since I used LEdit not two minutes prior to trying to install LSynth. Do I need to install it in a particular directory? Dave! (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
(...) A simple fix to reduce the file size some what is to limit the amount of digits in the synthisized part. For example, I noticed that lsynth writes 10.000000 instead of just 10. Also I think 3 or 4 decimal places is accurate enough (although (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
(...) Me too. I'd also like it to be integratable into development environments. This is why the actual synthesizer is a simple ASNI C program that can be accessed via command prompt methods, whether that be unix or windows, and all the actual (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
(...) This is basically what I wanted to suggest. Fredrik's (and therefore my) method is probably what should be used. I really want all bendible part synthesis to be united under one program. -Orion (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
Hi Don, I'd love it if you would set up the project on sourceforge. I know nothing about sourceforge specifically, although I've use source code control systems for many years. As we can see, there are plenty of wasy to improve lsynth, and I think (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
(...) Orion, Right now there is a dependency between the lsynth GUI program and the lsynthcp program in that lsynth needs to know where lsynthcp is located to be able to run it. Currently the windows based installer uses the registry to identify (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
Jennifer, You are using and old verion of LSynth where the length is provided. Version 2.0 has it removed, because it was not used. Orion, I agree completely on wanting a length control. I also want lsynth to somehow understand hose rigidity (I (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
(...) Yes. That is one of the bugs in the program (I'm sure there are more lurking out there.) I've got constraints too close together. Again, I hope to fix this using an iterative length technique, or to have the synthesizer assume know that the (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
(...) I'm pretty excited about that one myself. Currently it really only handles rubber bands as belts. I also need to add (because I need it in a model) the ability to have non-planar belts, and non-belts (constrained by bricks, liftarms and such). (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
Hi Jaco, I started out on the wrong approach to synthesized hoses and rubber bands, where I used LDraw parts to create the bands and tubes. In most cases I don't need new parts, I just need to use a cylinder (or square) primitive and scale it as (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
"Orion Pobursky" <bilthefish@IHATESPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message (...) to (...) synthesized (...) need. (...) or (...) Yup, I realised that. The lsynth header allows you to specify the hose length (even though it currently isn't used) so I'm (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
(...) For non fixed length parts such as hoses the constraint part work beautifully. What I'm talking about is the fixed length flexble axles and ribbed hoses. The shape of the curve structure betwwen two point is dependent on the length of the part (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
"Orion Pobursky" <bilthefish@IHATESPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message news:H8qqq5.Bu9@lugnet.com... (...) Horses for courses I suppose, I found the constraint method (when applied to pneumatic hoses) totally brilliant, in fact I can't imagine a simpler (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
This is the correct one. Forget the first! "Jaco van der Molen" <jmolen@globalxs.nl> schreef in bericht news:H8r0vD.9rr@lugnet.com... (...) example (...) straight (...) great! (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
This is the wrong version of my post :-) "Jaco van der Molen" <jmolen@globalxs.nl> schreef in bericht news:H8r08B.8ov@lugnet.com... (...) example (...) small (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
OK! I downloaded it again and it works! It is a great program. I especially like the option to create chains. What I do not understand though is why the fiber optic cable in the example has to be almost 2 Mb? All files are rather large. Like the (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
OK! I downloaded it again and it works! What I do not understand though is why the fiber optic cable in the example has to be almost 2 Mb? And all files seem rather large. Like the rubber band that spans 2 wheels (lsynth_band2 in the example file). (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
Some comment about L-Synth: -I Really like the rubber bands\treads\chain feature. This is insanely useful. -I'm not so wild about the flex axle/ribbed hose implementation. Is there any way to specify the amount of ribs or the length of the axle and (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  LSynth 2.0 Installer BUG (Was Re: LSynth 2.0 Available)
 
If you have more than one MKLIST.EXE file on your machine you will get an error with the installer. I get the following error. ERROR Can not create the following directory: D:\Development\LDraw Installation\MKLIST....ment\LDraw (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
(...) Actually I said this: (...) Thought it was clear enough that I had uploaded again to fix the problem. Kevin (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
(...) Nope, just guessing... because your first post just said "I redownloaded it and it worked" without the addtional info this post had, that it wasn't working for you and that you reuploaded and redownloaded... Hope that helps. (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
Larry, When I came home from work, I downloaded what I had uploaded this morning, and ran into the same problems everyone else ran into. I re-uploaded it (making sure I was in binary mode). I then brought it down via the www and it worked. Have you (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
(...) Did you download it to a machine that had never had any of the SW (or your development environment) on it to confirm that it works? Maybe there's a development environment dependency you're not aware of? (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
I re-uploaded it again. I downloaded and confirmed that it works. Hopefully it will work for the rest of you. Kevin (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
I re-uploaded it again. I downloaded and confirmed that it works. Hopefully it will work for the rest of you. Kevin (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
(...) Me too. So then I typed "start LSynth_setup.exe" to give it a full windows launch and got the quickly disappearing DOS window. Same for Start/Run LSynth_setup.exe and an explorer click on the executable. Could it be looking for something else (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
(...) This is NOT hapening with the .exe file on the website. A small dos window does appear for a short time but nothing else? Perhaps the .exe is corrupt? -AHui (22 years ago, 14-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
I downloaded the program, opened a DOS window and typed "LSynth_setup.exe" and got the following... This program cannot be run in DOS mode. Windows 2000 Professional. Ron (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  Re: LSynth 2.0 Available
 
Hi Don, The setup was supposed to give you choices on where you wanted it to install, what program group you wanted start menus under, and confirm that you wanted to install. LSynth needs some special LDraw parts, so after it copies the parts into (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)


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