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(...) Interesting quote from CNN online: Russian President Vladimir Putin also sent a telegram to Bush. "Dear George," he wrote, "such an inhuman act must not go unpunished." I'm sure that the US is going to strike back at the terrorist (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) How do you strike back "morally"? Obviously people like this are not going to just give up. (...) Make no mistake, this is war. The only way to deal with terrorists is with terror. That may seem harsh but if we want to do something against (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Eric Kingsley" <kingsley@nelug.org> wrote in message news:GJK1F4.7tD@lugnet.com... (...) [ ... snipped ... ] (...) prevent (...) with (...) terrorism (...) the (...) die. (...) war to (...) you (...) of us (...) the US (...) it (...) and it (...) (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If the USA acts with the brutality that many seem to expect/want more martyrs will be created and the events of yesterday may well be repeated at some point in the future by those who follow. Only tackling the apparent philosophical legitimacy (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.general, Scott Arthur writes: <snip> (...) This is great but how do you suggest we "tackle the philosophical legitimacy" of whomever did this? And how do you suggest we ensure that events such as these never happen again without all out (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This assumes that some will be allowed to "follow." (...) I agree to a point. If you're willing to rule out mass murder as an option, then you are spot on. Your whole point about disconnecting religion (religion shared by many) from these (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.general, Scott Arthur writes: <snip> (...) A reasonable person would have to ask, how would this question had been perceived if it had been directed to whoever perpetrated yesterdays events before they happened. Either they were commiting (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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TAKE THIS OUT OF .GENERAL! PLEASE! if you want to snarl at each other, do it in .debate where it belongs Kevin ---...--- Craftsman Lego Kits & Custom models: (URL) Lego parts store: (URL) Lego auctions: (URL) Guild of Bricksmiths: (URL) Lego Web (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Take this out of general and keep it in debate - it has now moved from special news to debating. PLease! Kevin ---...--- Craftsman Lego Kits & Custom models: (URL) Lego parts store: (URL) Lego auctions: (URL) Guild of Bricksmiths: (URL) Lego Web (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.general)
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(...) That is tough without knowing who did it. But, I would say that the number one weapon should be education. As I have said before, if the group who did this use religion as a justification, the link between their religion and their act must be (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I generally agreed with what you said Scott, so I am just picking at the details here... I think you meant that "no religion SHOULD condone what happened on Tuesday." Sadly, many faiths do suborn the use of violence to an almost epic scale -- (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) hold on there - the fact that the bible describes violence doesn't in any way mean that either the Jewish or the Christian/Catholic religions condone such actions. Yes, there are many stories of war in the bible, but one of the 10 commendmends (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Really? I guess we might as well throw this book of lies away then... =) BTW, these are not mere descriptions -- you know, silly stuff like where a whale swallows a man and delivers him to another country. It is my understanding that Joshua is (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) heh, for all practical purposes, I have :) only reason I have a copy is that it was a present, and it does make a good reference book, esp for .debate. (...) It is my opinion that the land of Israel doesn't belong to the Israelis because the (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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