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NEWS: Hundreds of police and fire fighters who ran to aid the first WTC tower attack are missing after second attack. Will take up to one week before any accurate estimate on fatalities can be made. Matt (23 years ago, 11-Sep-01, to lugnet.general)
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NEWS: Bush will address US at 9:00PM Eastern/6:00PM Pacific. Matt (23 years ago, 11-Sep-01, to lugnet.general)
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CNN has reported explosions in Kabul. Just heard on the radio. Pedro (23 years ago, 11-Sep-01, to lugnet.general)
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PERSONAL: Well, I've been at this for five hours now...the news is, of course, slowing down...thankfully, there have been no new attacks or further terrorist activities...I don't really know why I took the time to relay all of the days news here at (...) (23 years ago, 11-Sep-01, to lugnet.general)
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(...) There is a huge fire in the area of the Kabul airport, possibly a fuel dump. There seemed to be antiaircraft fire and highspeed rockets, possibly cruise missiles. Jeff (23 years ago, 11-Sep-01, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Matt, I think I can speak what the entire is thinking...Thank You! You've condensed all of this news into an easy to read form. Instead of looking at CNN.com, I've been coming here, a place I feel comfortable. My prayers, also, are with those (...) (23 years ago, 11-Sep-01, to lugnet.general)
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She called her husband from the hijacked plane. Barbara Olsen, well-known right-wing tv celibrity and debator was onboard on one of the crashed planes. Accoring to her husband, she called him twice from her cellular during the flight. - The (...) (23 years ago, 11-Sep-01, to lugnet.general)
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(...) There's nothing left to say I guess. I only would like you to know that I'm feeling exactly the same. (Most german people do ! Churches are full with people praying for the victims. Nothing else in TV for hours on every channel) I'm very (...) (23 years ago, 11-Sep-01, to lugnet.general)
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My thoughts will be with those lost in this tragic event, and for those who will yet be touched by the senseless act. I implore you not to compare this with Pearl Harbor as has been mentioned. Pearl Harbor was at the time, a key MILITARY target. (...) (23 years ago, 11-Sep-01, to lugnet.general)
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Never before could I relate to any other bombing in America, because I didn't realize the trauma and the disgusting horrible scenes of the building, but now I do realize, I also realise the Palestinians are horrible disgusting foul people for (...) (23 years ago, 11-Sep-01, to lugnet.general)
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NEWS: President Bush's speech has been pushed up to 8:30PM ET from 9:00PM ET PERSONAL: Well, now that I've had a shower and some food, I'm feeling a bit better...wanted to update the time of the President's speech...to those who expressed thanks for (...) (23 years ago, 11-Sep-01, to lugnet.general)
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(...) There is a report that it was an attack by the 'Northern Alliance', the group the Taliban are battling for control of Afghanistan. The attacks were by helicopter gunships under the control of this group. (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.general)
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For those who did not hear President Bush's address---- Main statement-" We make no distinction between those who perpetrated this and those who harbor them" He also put an estimated number to the casualties: his words- in the thousands. Seems to be (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.general)
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This is the part of the speech that stood out for me. While I am no war -monger, I am definately not a pascifist, and I think that this statement is going to put the world on notice that we will finaly put a face on terrorism. The biggest problem (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.general)
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(...) And maybe there'll be a few million more innocent people killed before everyone suddenly realises it hasn't made any difference. Is terrorism OK when sanctioned by GWB? You really think it will stop others retaliating? ROSCO (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't coun't an attack on terrorists as terrorism. can you really compare an attack on a terrorist training camp to an attack on civilians? You are right though, retaliating won't stop terrorism, it would just make it harder. That's a good (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) everyone (...) Why not? (...) on civilians? Yes, I can. They're all people, even if they may be somewhat mis-guided. Trouble is, Bush seems to be saying he wants to retaliate against anyone who harbours terrorists. And how do they decide who (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) everyone (...) Although I'm generally a left-wing peace supporting citizen the events of the last year here in Israel (and now the horrible unbelievable attack in NY) have convinced me that when dealing with people that have no regard for (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) -snip- (...) make (...) retaliate, (...) Interesting questions and statements Ross. Today's events are certainly very, very tragic and saddening. The long term effects of these attacks could/will be devasting. I hope the U.S. first finds out (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So what hard descisions do you think are appropriate here? Do you agree with GWB when he says we can "win the war against terrorism" [1]? ROSCO [1] Read the speech here (URL) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) When people fight wars they kill people. It's very sad, especially when you consider that most of these people don't consider themselves 'evil' but are convinced that they are right (it's possible that they were 'mis-guided' by their leaders). (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) that (...) a (...) believe (...) the (...) have (...) life (...) great (...) When (...) [1]? (...) 'winning' has a positive sound to it and I think nothing about this situation or the actions that must be taken is positive. I'm not sure what (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ross Crawford writes: <snip> You KNOW I have lots to say about this but let's take Matt G's advice and let it sit for a few days. Whatever we have to say about it isn't going to change what the real world decides to do in (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I also support this suggestion. In other news: Larry--where are you right now? Are you camped out at the airport or did you find other accomodations? Dave! (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nod, I'm sorry I replied in the first place. There are people still alive in there! CNN just showed a video of the first plane smashing into the building. very sad. :( (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) He rented a car and drove to Indy. (URL) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm a seasoned traveler, as soon as it became clear that there was a chance that flights might start delaying, I got a rental car as a precaution via landline to our agency. 5 min after that NWA was on the PA saying that the airport was (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) PERSONAL: Just got back from Lamaze class...thank you Larry...I really don't want to see this kind of debate on LUGNET right now...how about we look into pulling together right now, instead of attempting to play pundit here in a forum where it (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Realized that many people wouldn't see this in .debate...reposting here... (...) PERSONAL: Just got back from Lamaze class...thank you Larry...I really don't want to see this kind of debate on LUGNET right now...how about we look into pulling (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.general)
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(...) PayPal's ahead way of us. They already have one. Check their main page. LFB (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.general)
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You can also give directly to the Red Cross via credit card online. Red Cross of Greater New York: (URL) Chapter (these guys have updated their web site today) (URL) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.general)
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Matt, (...) slowing (...) keep (...) stuck (...) Well, I was one of those stuck at work, and with the internet being spotty at best, I am very thankful for your efforts. Thanks! (...) Indeed. Scott S. -- MichLUG Member, www.michlug.org Personal (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.general)
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