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| | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Mark de Kock
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| | | | | (...) This message is both threatening and reassuring: TLG admits that they're in trouble, but they also decide to do something about it. I hope they will get through this crisis and get out of it stronger and more customer-orientated. Mark --- (...) (26 years ago, 22-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Jesse Long
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| | | | | | | Mark de Kock wrote in message ... (...) more (...) Good: They realize they need changes. They realize they need these changes in corporate structure and function. Bad: Even their "review" appears to focus only on internal structure, and not product, (...) (26 years ago, 22-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | Jesse Long wrote: <lots of good stuff> (...) This os one observation I disagree with. This is a privately owned firm. Therefore it can have whatever values the owners want. If they choose not to focus on bottom line, they can do that and not have to (...) (26 years ago, 22-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | I read this, and as you know, I guess I feel I have a bit more exposure to companies undergoing change than some of you, as that's what our firm does, help companies change. I found a lot of positive things in the message, but trying to get the (...) (26 years ago, 22-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | (...) 1BN? Is that a million million, or a thousand million? (...) I don't know -- I almost always get charged by CA for parts replacement. Which is OK with me. Free was wonderful, but it is a service worth paying for. Especially when they send the (...) (26 years ago, 22-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Jesse Long
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| | | | | | Steve Bliss wrote in message <36a8c26e.21838254@l...et.com>... (...) One billion is a thousand million. A million million is one trillion, which you never have unless you're talking about the US Debt. Jesse ___...___ Jesse The Jolly Jingoist Looking (...) (26 years ago, 22-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Anders Isaksson
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| | | | | | | Jesse Long skrev i meddelandet ... (...) which (...) Depends on the part of the world! Here in Sweden (and most of Europe?), a thousand million is called 'miljard', and a billion is one million million. Sweden US ---...--- Miljon 1 000 000 Million (...) (26 years ago, 23-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | (...) You haven't been following lugnet.robotics.way-off-topic. Steve (26 years ago, 23-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | (...) How typically US centric. Tsk, Tsk. Jasper *tongue firmly in cheek* (26 years ago, 24-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | [followup set to lugnet.off-topic.fun] (...) We went through this in the robotics group; it was a mess. But I believe the US usage is derived from the French, so blame them. (26 years ago, 24-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | (...) I know... I was there. (...) Damn the frogs!! *apologizes in advance to the milliards of French frogs he's just insulted* Jasper (26 years ago, 24-Jan-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) Hardly. The french deserve a lot of credit... hmm.. Oh yes. The metric system. AND... raising "haughty" to an art form. (26 years ago, 24-Jan-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Thomas Main
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| | | | | (...) Indented material quoted from the press release: A DKK 1 billion improvement We have to sharpen our demands for our business system, but there also has to be room for both development and new activities. The Executive Team has therefore (...) (26 years ago, 22-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | | (...) Hey, I liked Titania's Palace when I was in Billund 15 years ago.. :) Jasper (26 years ago, 22-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | | (...) Well, according to the next thread, that's from where they are now, to where they were in 97. So that should deinitely be doable - of course, up usually takes longer than down :) Jasper (26 years ago, 22-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | Dollars to 2x4 bricks that this was ghosted for KKK. See my rant in dear-lego just now. I had some time to think about this after my meeting with the manager at LIC last night. (...) (26 years ago, 23-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Tom McDonald
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| | | | (...) <quote> Help with their future careers and help, if they so wish, to establish themselves a business. </quote> That might prove interesting. Could we see TLG's competition picking up strength after some folks are asked to leave, that is if the (...) (26 years ago, 24-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | (...) Hrmmm, I saw that in a very (hopeful) different way. Maybe a semi Lego-sanctioned parts source? Nah... (26 years ago, 25-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Tom McDonald
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| | | | | | (...) I agree. In all likelihood, no. They are very protective. But I find it very interesting that TLG has let LDraw hang around this long - it obviously copies their own pieces, not just 2x4's: IMO, a flagrant violation of their copyrighted (...) (26 years ago, 25-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Steve Bliss
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| | | | (...) I've got a little bit of authority to speak to this. My employer, Amway Corporation, has (from the organizational side of things) some similarities to TLG[1]. They are family-owned, multi-national companies. They have both been in a slump (...) (26 years ago, 25-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Tom McDonald
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| | | | | (...) I find this to be very cool, if it actually works. I say this only because probablity dictates that there is not a 100% success rate. But nonetheless if TLG is anything like the Amway Corp., that's great. On another tangent, wouldn't that be (...) (26 years ago, 25-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | (...) Well, the outplacement stuff is standard practice when firing in Europe. I think the Unions might get upset otherwise... Jasper (26 years ago, 25-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Jesse Long
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| | | | Steve Bliss wrote in message <36abdc17.2168556@lu...et.com>... (...) Sure, but TLG isn't a pyramid scheme, so there's a big difference. Amway has to hit a slump, because there's only so many people willing to sign on as salespeople. TLG is a toy (...) (26 years ago, 25-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Tom McDonald
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| | | | | (...) Right. It was just a thought, albeit not necessarily a good one. MLM wouldn't work with lego because as you indicate, it's a toy: it couldn't generate enough cash to float because the product line is too narrow. Amway is really for people who (...) (26 years ago, 25-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Steve Bliss
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| | | | (...) I don't want to get into depth with this, since I don't consider myself an Amway apologist. But I do have to say: Amway is *not* a pyramid scheme. If anyone wants to discuss this further, let's take it e-mail. Steve (26 years ago, 25-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) What he said. Leave Amway alone. They manufacture and ship billions of dollars of product each year, and they pay my school taxes to boot. :-) (...) Whoops. (...) (26 years ago, 25-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | (...) Can someone explain just what amway is? I'm not familiar with the name... Jasper (26 years ago, 25-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Selçuk Göre
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| | | | | It's the name of a special cleaning product manufacturer (or distributer), in other words, simply a detergent brand. The special thing about Amway is its distribution and marketing system. You can not buy any Amway product from your favorite store, (...) (26 years ago, 25-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Jesse Long
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| | | | | | Selçuk wrote in message <36ACE300.53C090DD@n...ne.com>... (...) in (...) your (...) a (...) ...that tries to get you to sign up under them to sell Amway stuff, hence my original comment. Every person who has tried to push Amway on me has always (...) (26 years ago, 25-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Selçuk Göre
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| | | | | | | (...) I know this thing, and I also agree that it is teasing. They also combine the whole thing with bells and whistles as "friendship force" or the like...sounds stupid. Selçuk (26 years ago, 25-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Mark de Kock
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| | | | | | | | Selçuk Göre writes/wrote/has writen: (...) Sound to me a typical lugnet.off-topic.debat... Anyway, we have this kind of think also in the Netherlands: Tupperware. (26 years ago, 26-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Louise Belles
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| | | | | | Jesse Long writes: It's like Mary Kay wihtout the pink cars. Just to keep the record straight, sale reps now have the choice between the traditional pink Cadilac or a red Grand Am. Louise Belles (26 years ago, 26-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Steve Bliss
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| | | | (...) Wow. There's someone we haven't reached... Steve (26 years ago, 26-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | (...) Yeah, I live in the Netherlands :). So.. how many of the readers of this group do Amway, and is that representative of the American public in general? Jasper (26 years ago, 26-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | Re: TLG press release - not a crisis? —Selçuk Göre
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| | | | (...) I'm not american, and I'm not a amway dealer. But my mother uses their products..:-) (in Turkey) Selçuk (26 years ago, 26-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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