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(...) See below. I see your points and follow your line of reasoning with which I agree for certain topics, but not this one. For example, I believe that your argument defends ignorant speech but not necessarily profanity. Bad taste is bad taste, (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jan-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Terms like "bad taste" are extremely subjective, and to my mind have no real meaning although I understand the gist of what you are saying -- really its more of a simple put down than anything else. And by "ignorance" I thought the original (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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No one could have put it better, Mr. Braun! -- Paul Davidson Mr L F Braun <braunli1@pilot.msu.edu> wrote in message news:388A4DF2.B4F052...msu.edu... (...) and (...) silly. (...) I agree (...) argument (...) taste, (...) comment on (...) expressed (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I disagree with the assertion that human psychology is a such a linear process. One person may read a post and think "this writer is deluded, and clearly wrong on points A, C, and D", someone else may read the same post and think "what a (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Richard Marchetti wrote in message ... (...) all (...) certain (...) When a bunch of people are leaving some venue (and as I understand it, some of the people leaving RTL were major contributors), one should look at what is going on. The purpose of (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No. These people and many others were visible indicators of a serious problem facing the community of AFOLs. Frank and others aready explained this quite well elsewhere in this thread, so there's not much I can add, and I don't want to get (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's it, yes! And because of the tenets which hold that... 1) people give their real-life name rather than posting anonymously, and 2) people avoid the use of obseneties/profanities/etc., ...LUGNET is a much more friendly, much less (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Wow, hasn't taken long for this hot potato to bounce out of the oven again. No sense in missing out on all the fun of the discussion, so here's my two minifigs worth (Star Wars, ofcourse!) (...) I'm with you there. Far too many arguments have got (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Just one major point here: I don't agree with what Todd is doing or why he is doing it for reasons stated previously. It should also be kept in mind that this thread began with the use of certain language on RTL and NOT on Lugnet -- I think (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Todd, I couldn't agree more. Thanks for taking a stand for civility. When my kids get old enough to read, I'll be happy that they will be able to use LUGNET without picking up language they don't need while they are too young to understand the (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Peter Callaway writes: <snip> (...) I think this is the heart of the "profanity in newsgroups" debate. I can fully understand profanity in the heat of the moment, in a spoken conversation. It is extremely easy to let a (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wait. The first part of your note sounded like it was about calm civility. How is it more civil to "insult, flame, or denigrate" someone just because the F-bomb isn't used? So is it about being decent to one another in this forum and trying to (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) HaH? You got a PROBLEM wid' dat? You got a freekin' PROBLEM? I noticed this as well, coming from MI (rather than MO) to NJ. I occasionally get looked at funny when I say "excuse me?" when they use profanity freely (but the elderly have (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My original point, which I think you have partially and inadvertently backed up, is that kids lack the maturity to use profanity wisely. Armed with the "F- bomb" as it is so tactfully put, a kid is just as likely to waltz up to the Queen and (...) (25 years ago, 25-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have no problem backing this thesis. It is obviously correct. However, the way for them to gain that wisdom is to be allowed to experiment and learn. If, as an adult, a person doesn't profane because they have a conditioned (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Richard Franks wrote in message ... (...) it (...) steam (...) process. (...) Whatever happened to Mad Hatter? (...) or (...) offensive (...) (!), (...) So, we are in the right group now? I agree that people ought to be decent on Lugnet and RTL. I (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Flippantly: Who cares? More seriously, any number of things. Mad Hatter may have decided the novelty wore off and went on to torment some other group. He or she may be posting under another pseudonym on RTL but is behaving more maturely. It (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Ugh...too much work and not enough Lugnet makes Pete a dull boy. I'm actually enjoying this discussion so forgive me if it appears we're flogging a dead horse. (...) So to draw a longish bow do you believe we should expose kids to absolutely (...) (25 years ago, 31-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is an interesting usage, can you tell me what it means? To make a farfetched argument by exaggeration? (25 years ago, 31-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Are you referring to the use of this phrase or the content of my argument? Have I used something incorrectly? Pete Callaway (25 years ago, 31-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have no idea if you did or not, although I'd tend to doubt it. I'm asking what the phrase "to draw a longish bow" means, NOT trying to critique the overall argument. I snipped it all away except for the phrase because that's what I was (...) (25 years ago, 31-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I think he meant he was going to be wordy in his (near) final post on the topic. -- Have fun! John The Legos you've been dreaming of... (URL) weird Lego site: (URL) Pieniazek wrote in message <38951578.D7CBB273@v...er.net>... (...) argument? (...) (25 years ago, 31-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) OK, I thought so. When you said "interesting usage" I thought you may have an alternative meaning (and possibly more correct) to mine. I also detected a hint of sarcasm, but that could just be me. The way I have used it is to indicate that I (...) (25 years ago, 31-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Pete Callaway (25 years ago, 31-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So it wasn't about sketching a clown's big floppy bowtie? Oh well ;-) Chris (25 years ago, 31-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Not nearly that full of wind! But its longbow, for future reference. -- Have fun! John The Legos you've been dreaming of... (URL) weird Lego site: (URL) Callaway wrote in message ... (...) (25 years ago, 31-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Right, the bow's too long. No I don't. Some things can hurt them. The goal is to expose them (or allow exposure - rather than creating it) to the things which will help them to build their minds and character. (...) I don't think that (...) (25 years ago, 31-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Umm, no. In this case it is long bow. It's describing what I'm doing to the bow, that is drawing long on it, or "stretching the truth/argument" to interpret it as a colloquialism. So I'm not drawing a longbow (noun), I'm drawing long (adverb) (...) (25 years ago, 2-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Well, we're both right. I think the phrase must be a bit more common on your underside of the world ;-), because of your more pure English heritage. You guys probably use it more, and probably have the right to spell it how you like. I only found (...) (25 years ago, 2-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) implementation of the GST. It's enough to give you angina. You guys seem to have mastered a GST quite well. Why does Australia have to be so dumb? (...) LOL!! I loved that article!! Pete Callaway (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, I don't think he (*must* be a male) would ever give up his precious Mad Hatter® pseudo-- he thinks he *is* the Mad Hatter. (...) Sleeping dogs lay, people lie. But don't get me started on the depravity of man;-) -John (...) (25 years ago, 15-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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