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(...) Well I may not be the best authority on the subject but I'll give it a shot, I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. NWBrickCon has been fan organized from the beginning, we haven't hired anyone to help organize. I don't think the first (...) (18 years ago, 13-Sep-06, to lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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| | Re: BrickFest registration fees (was: LEGO Adult Fan Convention at Legoland California?)
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(...) Hi Todd, Though I don't know whether it's appropriate that I take a hand in this discussion, but since I'm organizing events too (1000steine-Land), I can second your thoughts by all means. I wasn't counting hours, and I doubt I'm able to round (...) (18 years ago, 13-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest)
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(...) What seems strange to me is people with such conviction about this not having asked for the financial details before attending. Seems that's the best time to find out. ROSCO (18 years ago, 13-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) Me too. I'd be very happy to assist with the endeavor in any way I can. (18 years ago, 13-Sep-06, to lugnet.events.brickfest, lugnet.loc.us.in.ind)
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(...) If a proper venue could be aquired, such as the Indianapolis Convention Center, then there would be ample room for an enormous Brick Bazzar. A LEGO store is a great thing to have at Brickfest, but without one, the people selling on site could (...) (18 years ago, 13-Sep-06, to lugnet.events.brickfest, lugnet.loc.us.in.ind)
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(...) I think the point is that there is a group of volunteers, lined up and waiting to be tapped... Steve (in line) (18 years ago, 13-Sep-06, to lugnet.events.brickfest)
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(...) No disrespect to Frank, Jeramy, or anyone, but an active club is not, in my mind a prerequisite for a convention. The Washington Metropolitan Area has two active clubs, an LTC and a LUG. Neither plays an overly dominant role. I am not saying (...) (18 years ago, 13-Sep-06, to lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) SPACE!!! ROSCO (18 years ago, 13-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, lugnet.fun, lugnet.space, FTX) !
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(...) Thanks, Frank, and sorry about the mistake. I had no recollection of the fees, and was just going by (URL) exchange> - which I thought pertained to the registration, but since there was a fee in 2001, they must have meant that the space was (...) (18 years ago, 13-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) I'm pretty sure BrickFest 2000 had a registration fee. I know that it was pointed out at one point that even in 2000, the facility was NOT free (I had been under that impression, and I know when conversation started about BF2001, perhaps even (...) (18 years ago, 13-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest)
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In lugnet.events, Todd Thuma wrote: . . . a bunch of stuff about the hidden costs of convention center unions . . . snipped! Eric Sink (a software developer) wrote a great article about trade shows: (URL) Much of what he has to say and what Todd (...) (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) My reply is that it just goes to show that Joe negotiated a very good contract with the hotel. I cannot believe any other event will be able to negotiate better prices for a four star hotel room than $89/ night including free parking, and (...) (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest)
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(...) The phrase "BrickFest is a Trademark of Brick Events LLC" started showing up on the website by (URL) July 19, 2002> at the latest. The (URL) Wayback Machine> isn't showing me the results for the beginning of 2002. The 2002 event was the first (...) (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) Yes, the figure is correct. I was told it to me by the AV company directly. One thing you forget is a lot of cities, states, and facilities have unions or contractual agreements in place that would prevent us from using our own gear. In fact I (...) (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest)
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(...) Sure, but that's a slightly different conversation. (...) I'm a heartless bastard. Ask my kids. :) You're free to draw the above conclusion, although it's incorrect. The conversation has morphed into something different from what I thought I (...) (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) Well... yeah? Shouldn't we be talking about consequence? (...) Oh, I'm not referring to any actions specifically-- I'm following what appears to be your stance to its absolutist conclusions to test the validity of your claim. Your claim (...) (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) Never said it was an ideal scenario. I was just pointing out what is rather than what might be preferred. And the way it is right now is that the intellectual property for the name "BrickFest" is held by AMH Productions, who holds all the (...) (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) It started out as an event (URL) run by a local LUG>. I'm not sure when or how the transition happened. The fact that BF was a business has been out there for a while - if you were looking for it. But BF has never felt like a business, what (...) (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) Those are all decent answers. It sounds like there's a discrepancy of tense... my comments in this thread have all been aimed at the past tense, why should an attendee of an event want to know information about what they've just attended. (...) (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) You bet they would. But BF has always been a privately held company, as far as I know, and never a non-profit. Being a non-profit requires specific paperwork (like what LEGOFan filed). So unless BF filed as non-profit, that's not an issue. (...) (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) "Because I'll be more likely to help if I know", "Because I'll be more likely to donate if I know", "Because I'd be willing to pay more if I know", "Because I'm more likely to attend if I know". You're absoutely right-- It's a capitalist (...) (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) You don't think there's anything wrong with acting like a nonprofit but operating as a private, for-profit enterprise? The IRS would like to have a stern talk with you. Not that BF has been pretending to be a nonprofit, but I don't think the (...) (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) As a member of IndyLUG, I would say that we are a very active club, having around 15 strong members and 27 total on our roster. We've averaged 7-9 public shows a year for the past three years. Along with the LafLRC, only 30-40 miles away ready (...) (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) Todd, is that $500 correct?? If so, if there is money left over from this year, I HIGHLY recommend investigating purchasing at least one projector, as they have gotten pretty cheap these days, it might even be cheaper to buy several compared (...) (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest)
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(...) Why? Still not following the logic. As an attendee, I paid my money and received value, and my hobby is being furthered by positive public attention. As a volunteer, I get warm fuzzies and the adoration of my peers for participating in such a (...) (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) Actually, Marc in his post may have more uptodate information: (URL) the group of four has chaned. Todd (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) Remember that the hotel got their money. Please do not misunderstand me, because I have no idea how much they got, but the hotel did not agree to allow an unspecified number of people to come walking in the facility without taking a cut of the (...) (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) Indy does have an active club (displaying at train & hobby shows year round) and I'm part of a LEGO Robotics club (LafLRC) that's about an hour drive, and would also offer volunteer help. Steve (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events.brickfest)
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In lugnet.events, Anthony Sava wrote: Snip (...) After lamblasting Anthony for his estimate of time, I would like to support him a little on his arguement here. I think it is a little disengenous for an organizer not to be upfront with where the (...) (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) Personally I think a LEGO retail store is not a necessity (look at BrickFest PDX, or the first couple NW BrickCons, of course now both Seattle and PDX do have stores). In fact, in the past, I used to curse it's existence as a serious (...) (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events.brickfest)
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(...) Ah - admission was $7 for a single day, $10 for both days. Assuming that Joe meant 3000 paid admissions and not 3000 clicks of the turnstile, the take was somewhere between $21000 and $30000, probably on the lower end of that (I'm guessing (...) (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) Jordan, I do not mean to speak for Christina or the BrickFest 2007 Staff but I do have a few comments: Other venues outside of Washington will be explored. Many fans have brought up the fact that a centralized location could cut down driving (...) (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events.brickfest)
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(...) Joe's number for public attendance was (URL) 3000>. I thought admission was $7, for a total of $21000, but if admission was $10, that makes $30000. (...) I am curious about that. Who are the owners of the Brickfest trademark and how much are (...) (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) Anthony, I appreciate your attempts to calculate the amount of hours an organizer might put into an event. Indeed it is difficult to fathom the number of hours a person is willing to contribute to something. Allow me a moment to quantify the (...) (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest)
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(...) Marc, Yes, volunteers pay their full way. In the spirit of full disclosure, as an organizer, I recevied one embroidered shirt from Joe as part of an effort to place all coordinators in one common, distinctive shirt, so that they could be (...) (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) Hi Don and all, I finally uploaded all my brickfest photos on brickshelf too .. a lot of work required as they all needed to be resized. Do check them out too! (URL) too had a great time at Brickfest 2006! cheers, "THE" Diana dvirus (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest)
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A small contingent of folks expressed interest in moving BrickFest to Indianapolis next year due to its several positive factors: - It is closer to the many AFOLs who don't live on or near the east coast. - It is cheaper to get a hotel room than in (...) (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, lugnet.announce) !
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(...) I was the one who came up with thousands of hours, and I actually thought about it before writing it which is a bit unusual with me. I was thinking of Christina's total input of hours for the last 5 or is it 6 years. And I would bet she has (...) (18 years ago, 12-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest)
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I've been reading this dicussion, and have a few thoughts: First off, a consideration of what the event coordinator has to put in: - A fair bit of time, sure, not 1000s of hours (for one event), 1000s of hours is a full time job... Hundreds of hours (...) (18 years ago, 11-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest)
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| | Flattery Will Get You Nowhere (Was: BrickFest Registration Fees)
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Folks, 'Sbeen a little while since I've been in here, and I must say, honestly I can't leave you kids alone for a second! :) I've decided to reply to Anthony's post, not because my words are necessarily directed at him, but because...well, I'm not (...) (18 years ago, 11-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest)
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