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In lugnet.events, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.events, Kevin Loch writes:
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> > So I ask everyone to refrain from using the mark Brickfest(sm) unless you are
> > referring to the Brickfest(sm) event.
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> IANAL and I truly just want to know, is it (tm) or (sm)? What determines the
> difference? Is (sm) for non profits??
Trademark is used for a name, phrase, logo, etc. identifying a product,
usually registered (but not always...and not always necessary. First use
usually will suffice as a trademark unless a real legal fight is engaged
over it), and gives you legal rights to persue anyone using the name,
phrase, logo, etc. improperly or without your permission.
Servicemarks are usually saved for temporary things. Example: a tag line in
a quarterly advertising campaign...you want to protect it for the life of
the campaign, but don't care beyond that.
HTH,
Matt
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| (...) Right. Knew that but good confirmation. Note the difference between TM and (R)... (to other readers). You can use the TM symbol, and it's a good practice to do so on things that you want to assert trademark for, without any other requirement. (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.events, lugnet.org.us.lugola)
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| (...) IANAL, but the one I spoke with said to use SM because the event is a service, not a product. I don't think it has anything to do with temporary/long term use. A quick search of the net indicates that TM and SM are functionally equivalent but (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.events, lugnet.org.us.lugola)
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