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  Top secret project - we need your help
 
All, Richard and I (mostly Richard, thanks Richard!) have been working on a new survey tool to get a better handle on the AFOL part desires. We have been working on a super top secret project – we’ll call it Project X - for many months now, and it’s (...) (20 years ago, 11-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.lego.announce, lugnet.color, lugnet.announce, FTX) !! 
 
  Re: Opacity change - when?
 
(...) I don't have much to add here except to confirm that I have seen this as well, older ABS is less translucent than newer ABS. It may be an attempt to save on pigment rather than an ABS formula change. It may not have been a sharp break point (...) (20 years ago, 11-May-04, to lugnet.color)
 
  Opacity change - when?
 
Avoiding the debate over the color change, I want to bring up another issue. It is quite obvious to me that modern Lego pieces are much more translucent than the old ones. I might be speaking about ancient times which nobody cares about here, but (...) (20 years ago, 10-May-04, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: Reasons for the color change
 
(...) In their opinion, reliability is demonstrated in public through not changing forward and back again just because some "whiners rant". By the way, did anybody around here consider writing to a newspaper? It wouldn't be a topic for the first (...) (20 years ago, 11-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.pun, lugnet.color)
 
  Re: Brown Bricks - Wood or Chocolate?
 
(...) Its not so much like wood, as like dirt. IMHO. (...) Not really. It is more reddish, but I don't get the urge to eat it. :) (...) This presumes the answer to #2 is yes! :) So, I guess I shouldhave left this blank? (...) Its brown. Honestly, I (...) (20 years ago, 11-May-04, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: Color Change - Final Update
 
(...) First off I would like to cast my vote for keeping the 48X48 baseplates and train track in their original shades of gray. I think that these 2 items are the most "crucial to keep in the old colors." Many of us would also like to know if these (...) (20 years ago, 11-May-04, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: Brown Bricks - Wood or Chocolate?
 
(...) I think that might depend both on the wood and the specifics of the weather. Cedar chests are used as non-skanky means of keeping moths from getting at valuable clothes (cedar smells infinitely more pleasant than moth-balls), but in order for (...) (20 years ago, 10-May-04, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: Reasons for the color change
 
(...) On this I must agree, even as the rabid-clone fan I am. Aside from being heavily juniorized, many of the Dragons elements are made in such a way that they require a herculean effort to get them to snap together, but not nearly so much force to (...) (20 years ago, 10-May-04, to lugnet.color, FTX)
 
  Re: Our Friend, the Sun
 
(...) Wish I could, but I know for a fact (the hard way) that my unemployment check doesn't buy much LEGO. :-) James (20 years ago, 10-May-04, to lugnet.color, FTX)
 
  Re: Reasons for the color change
 
(...) snip The other flaw in the argument (besides the one you mentioned) is that if LEGO gave mixed clone and LEGO elements to my 8-year-old son and his friends, the clones would quickly get tossed aside because they don't fit as well as LEGO. My (...) (20 years ago, 10-May-04, to lugnet.color, FTX)
 
  Re: Our Friend, the Sun
 
(...) Oh my, this sounds interesting. I'm gonna have to do some experimenting with the EEPROM burner. Oh wait, I don't have enough new bricks to do the experiment and keep a control set around. Oh well. (20 years ago, 10-May-04, to lugnet.color, FTX)
 
  Re: Our Friend, the Sun
 
(...) Small price to pay in the name of science. Get irradiating! Dave! (20 years ago, 10-May-04, to lugnet.color, FTX)
 
  Re: Our Friend, the Sun
 
Kevin, That was one of my original conspiracy theories about the new colors -- that LEGO had to change the manufacturing process in some way (regulations or whatever), so they formulated a new plastic that would eventually age to look like the old. (...) (20 years ago, 10-May-04, to lugnet.color, FTX)
 
  Re: Jake did good?
 
Jake, we are 100% behind you. We can't begin to thank you enough for the things you are trying to do for us and we understand that it's not that easy. We know it can be diffcult to be the middleman who get shouts from allover, frankly we couldn't (...) (20 years ago, 10-May-04, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: Reasons for the color change
 
(...) I just had a thought .... If you were TLG and you were losing market share, you might want to try and find ways of figuring out why. What if someone in TLG came up with the bright idea of putting a mixed bunch of Lego bricks and clone bricks (...) (20 years ago, 10-May-04, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: A color question that ISN'T about the new grays
 
(...) Yeah, I recall some stuff about the relative waffleness and durability of the CA stuff, but I couldn't remember the specifics of any color discussions. Besides, I wanted to get a quick post into our brand-spankin-new lugnet group (and a (...) (20 years ago, 10-May-04, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: A color question that ISN'T about the new grays
 
(...) My CA dates back to about 1967. It's definitely more orangey than the current red. I also have red slopes from that time period that I suspect are not CA and they are distinctly different color, and like you, they are similar to the current (...) (20 years ago, 10-May-04, to lugnet.color)
 
  A color question that ISN'T about the new grays
 
I recently got a few Samsonite-era LEGO pieces in an Ebay lot and noticed a few differences between those bricks and the current ones. Obviously the studlogo is in a different font, and the underside of the plates is sort of "waffle-y," but the (...) (20 years ago, 10-May-04, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: The prefect answer to deciding which parts to make in the old colors
 
(...) Do you really belive in "inexpensive bulk packs" from this company? Besides, they should first agree on what the new colours are, as there are at least two shades of the new dark grey are floating around... Come on, TLC could not care less (...) (20 years ago, 10-May-04, to lugnet.color, lugnet.lego)
 
  Re: Living with the Color change
 
(...) Hi, Eric, my current "BIG MOC" is a medivel/fantasy setting on 144x192 studs. Although it is much smaller than your brewery, it uses several kilograms of plates 1x1 and 1x2, thus driving the parts count (estimated) to about 50000 pieces. About (...) (20 years ago, 10-May-04, to lugnet.color)


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