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Hello! I surrender. I'm not convinced but i'm beaten. I, we have got to accept the greysome fact that TLC is not going to retract this colour change. Ever. They think they did the right thing. They deliberated it carefully, they invested money and (...) (21 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.color)
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| | Re: In Praise of TLC
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(...) Just as an aside, Canon HAS screwed over customers lens mount changes. I'm not sure if you were around for the Hi8 era, when the Canon L1/L2 sported a lens mount called a "VL type lens". Admittedly, it was only for two generations of consumer (...) (21 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.color)
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(...) Great post! I'm with 100%. And i wish someone at TLC (besides super-Jake) reads this. Spotlighted! Best regards, Paulo Renato (21 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.color, FTX)
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In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote: snip (...) I believe that quote was from me :-) It's a sad joy (sic) to be quoted here. Well, maybe Jake didn't quote me but someone who said the same thing as I said, but nevertheless, I'm glad to see Jake truly (...) (21 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.color)
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(...) Christian already brought this *very* pertinent issue up on this thread. Obviously (to me) the wiser solution would be changing back the colours (although, arguably not the most profitable at short term). But if no action is taken - changing (...) (21 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.color)
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| | Re: In Praise of TLC
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(...) I think you're missing the point Bill. Your examples don't work here. Rather ask what would happen if Canon makes change to lenses mount [ruining the 'system' & breaking backwards compatibility]. And I don't think that toy x non-toy makes a (...) (21 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.color)
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(...) Well even if there *was* a legitimate need, it still doesn't explain how they (the Design Lab) thought replacing grey with bley would help that need. I would be very interested in hearing the logic behind that. I would also be interested in (...) (21 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.color)
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(...) Jake, Thanks for the information--unfortunately, you're only human yourself, and only have so many hours in a day to do things--much of which was beyond your control at that time. It appears there are possible issues in the Design Lab. In my (...) (21 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.color, FTX)
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| | In Praise of TLC
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Sure, I'm not too happy about the change of greys, though I think in the long run the new greys will prove to be a better color. But I wanted to offer a little reality check here... If Mattel suddenly changed Barbie's hair or eye color, would they (...) (21 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.color)
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(...) Jake, I have said nothing on the color issue so far. I do not have a big collection, so it will not affect me that much personally. And I am sorry that you've been given so much grief over this matter. However, please convey this reality check (...) (21 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.color, FTX) !
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(...) - snip - (...) Or of course that you don't understand Lego's customers but are rather assuming they are all like you. Jeff (...) (21 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.color)
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(...) Thanks Jake for giving us the full story. I am in the camp that appreciates your diligence and suffering to bring the truth to the AFOL community. Whether I agree or disagree (cough disagree cough) with LEGO's choice, I think you've done a (...) (21 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.color)
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As someone who has run into situations like this in business before, I can understand the situation. It's hard to make changes that are necessary to improve the product due to the impact on existing customers. Where Lego missed the boat on this (...) (21 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.color, FTX)
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(...) I think "organically" in this context means that the broadening of the color palette was not guided by a deliberate, structured plan and was instead allowed to grow to suit the needs that arose over time. Dave! (21 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.color)
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Jake, Thanks for working on getting this info, but... (...) Detail, please - exactly which way do you mean "organically" here? It can have more than one meaning, one which is {very good} for anyone building realistic displays. (...) There is a TON (...) (21 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.color)
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(...) Yep, typo. Making messages without spell/grammer ccheckk will do that to you. (Yes, I know. It's intentional.) Have Fun! C-ya! Rich (21 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.color, FTX)
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(...) Rich, I have to pick on you, buddy ;-) Above, you say 'inciteful [1].' I can't tell if that was a genuine typo, or if you meant it as a reference to how any official posts about the color issue incite harsh posts against the company and the (...) (21 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.color, FTX)
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(...) Ok Folks, It's been a long time since I've been flamed (quick check to my behind to see if 3rd deg burns have sufficiently healed over... yup), so I guess it's time to get my fanny fried again. Jake, thank you for the explaination. I at least (...) (21 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.color, FTX)
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In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote: (snip) (...) It's good enough for me. Thanks for explaining the matter throughly, Jake. Pedro (21 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.color, FTX)
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| | Re: The Knight Bus problem
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(...) That was also my thought. Wait a few months for the film to be released and let all the 7-12 years olds have the launch batch for themselves. Martin (21 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.color, FTX)
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