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  Re: LEGO Facts and Figures - tolerance on part sizes
 
(...) This doesn't line up with what Jake said about plate height tolerance last June: (URL) He said it was 3.2mm +/-0.1mm, twenty times the tolerance quoted above. What publication was the 0.005mm tolerance taken from - can the relevant part of it (...) (20 years ago, 24-Feb-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.color, lugnet.lego)
 
  Re: Pics from ToyFair 2005
 
(...) Entirely possible, although the context of the rest of Larry's message is about Jorgen being put off by the Lugnet color discussion. As far as I recall that discussion has been entirely about the colors themselves, not the designs of the sets (...) (20 years ago, 23-Feb-05, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: Pics from ToyFair 2005
 
(...) Hey Jake, my ears are burning :-). Steve (20 years ago, 22-Feb-05, to lugnet.color, FTX)
 
  Re: Pics from ToyFair 2005
 
(...) I can see how frustrating it can get. My job involves a lot of that as well, I design web interfaces that have to be useful for absolute noobs ("what's this clicky thing on a string fer?") as well as power users... it's either "too hard" or (...) (20 years ago, 22-Feb-05, to lugnet.color, FTX)
 
  Re: Pics from ToyFair 2005
 
(...) 1) The company. They'd lose money and waste ABS that they bought buy buying back the hordes of old gray. Also takes people's time (aka more money) to make the change happen. 2) Various fringe fans. "I invested a lot of money into the new light (...) (20 years ago, 22-Feb-05, to lugnet.color, FTX)
 
  Re: Pics from ToyFair 2005
 
(...) Thanks for the discussion Jake. It's certainly true that you can't please all of the people all of the time. The danger of course is that it's easy to fall into the trap of dismissing contrary opinions, since "someone will always be (...) (20 years ago, 22-Feb-05, to lugnet.color, FTX) ! 
 
  Re: Pics from ToyFair 2005
 
(...) I'm going to make some big fat frothing assumptions here and try to "explain" Jorgen's comment - at least from my position in the company. This is meant as nothing more than a helpful hint as to this particular situation (and a bit of "Jake's (...) (20 years ago, 22-Feb-05, to lugnet.color, FTX) ! 
 
  Re: Pics from ToyFair 2005
 
(...) I think you are misreading. My impression (from what I read) was that Jorgen found it dispiriting that however good a model he designed, there would be people that didn't like it simply because it was bley. Not, as you seem to have read it, (...) (20 years ago, 22-Feb-05, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: Pics from ToyFair 2005
 
(...) I don't know for sure, I didn't ask, but I would GUESS those people that have already made an investment in sets that contain new gray? ++Lar (from AMS... KLM lounge to be specific) (20 years ago, 22-Feb-05, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: Pics from ToyFair 2005
 
(...) I am certainly overanalyzing this paraphrase of what was most likely an offhand remark, but I find this remark puzzling. What part of the fan base would be set off by returning to the old colors? I do recall seeing a small handful of posts of (...) (20 years ago, 22-Feb-05, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: Pics from ToyFair 2005
 
(...) Yes. Obviously! Why wouldn't it be? They said they're not changing back. (the preLEGO pics from the Times Square TRU PaB... that's all new light grey near as I could tell) As I commented somewhere else, this set is going to make those that (...) (20 years ago, 20-Feb-05, to lugnet.color)  
 
  Re: I wish they'd halved the color palette first . . .
 
(...) Perhaps the sarcasm warning light was still on for that particular suggestion(1), but if it was not, *I* would suggest caution about posting color stuff to lugnet.fun... one would be well served to carefully examine the charter and make sure (...) (20 years ago, 13-Feb-05, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: I wish they'd halved the color palette first . . .
 
(...) Dear Dave, what is so hard to understand about this (sarcasm warning lights on!): You know, there are these focus groups and they tested the new stuff hard on kids and those kids LOVED the new bright colours so unbelievable hard.... This is (...) (20 years ago, 13-Feb-05, to lugnet.color)
 
  I wish they'd halved the color palette first . . .
 
then maybe they wouldn't have had to change gray, dark gray and brown to save money? Dave (STILL trying to make sense of things) (20 years ago, 12-Feb-05, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: bricks & plates forever!
 
(...) Burkhard, I think that there is major difference in the building styles between German and USA AFOLs. In Germany you have 11,000 Castles, thousands of historic churches, hundreds of medieval cities, lots of medieval gates, walls and other (...) (20 years ago, 10-Feb-05, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: New MOC - fright car from the middle of the last century
 
(...) I have the same opinion you do. I was only *mildly* annoyed to see him talking about 'it' again, that's all. He even put it in his MOC post. Anyways, I'd rather not discuss this any further, as you mentioned when I pointed to Todd's 'Blay on' (...) (20 years ago, 9-Feb-05, to lugnet.color, FTX)
 
  Re: New MOC - fright car from the middle of the last century
 
(...) Listen, the guy has a passion for opposing the color change, so don't rain on his parade. Personally, I am not happy with the change either, but I haven't the desire or energy to oppose it. If Ben and others do, than I say more power to them! (...) (20 years ago, 9-Feb-05, to lugnet.color, FTX)
 
  Re: New MOC - fright car from the middle of the last century
 
(...) Sorry, but I am not done with bley. And hiding them behind the trash has been the so far only useful way to handle the topic for me. Ben the only bley I have used so far (the trashcan link): (URL) (20 years ago, 9-Feb-05, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: New MOC - fright car from the middle of the last century
 
(...) Aww man, I thought we were done with this... Anyways, I've found a lovely train-related use for bley (That does NOT involve nailing some to the door to hold a garbage can) Stay tuned. Legoswami Samarth (20 years ago, 9-Feb-05, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: New MOC - fright car from the middle of the last century
 
(...) But they will probably never come out in System grey. Only in $&%$! bley.... Ben (20 years ago, 9-Feb-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.color)


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