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  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) Thought - with this system, how are you going to distinguish between a model (component in a set) and a component of a model (commmonly known as submodel)? There should then be two letters after the set number, or a letter and a number (ie. (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) I would agree with all except this. My reason is because 'set' can be used to refer to the entire package, where 'model' would refer to individual items within a set. ie. Terminal, Airplane, Helicopter, and Service Vehicle for an airport set. (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
OK since the header seems to be a problem I will use set 7130 as an example and I will explain each part of the header in depth. 0 Name: M7130-99.dat 0 Snowspeeder 0 Author: Ryan Dennett 0 Official Model Repository OK line one: M stands for model, (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) The submodel and model are the same thing by your definition. I agree with keeping 'model' as the term for this and use submodel to replace component in definition. (...) No need to put 'first model' in there. The other file eader would be: 0 (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) Yes. -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) I am going to strongly go with the MPD download myself. (...) Hmmm.... that is a good thought.... I would go for that, since they could theoretically take the place of instructions. -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (URL) timcourtne (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
I don't want to intrude too much in this debate, but John has a very good point. Whatever you decide to do, do NOT use just a number-only file name. That is guaranteed to cause problems with part files. -- Terry K -- (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) I suggest that this or other simmilar lines about the model go on the *first* line of the file, as that is the normal place for the title of a DAT file. That way, if LDAO or some other utility is ever improved to show the title of the model, (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) What's the difference between your definition of model and submodel? Is this correct for the Red Bird Rig (Model Team don't know the number) 1st model: truck w/ plane submodels: tractor trailer plane 2nd model: jeep w/ racecar submodels: jeep (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
"jonathan wilson" <wilsonj@xoommail.com> 140.dat (...) For neatness's sake, I think we shoud keep the capitalization clean: 0 Set: <set num> <Theme> <Model Name> <year> 0 Name: <filename> 0 Author: <Name> <<email>> 0 Official LEGO Group Model 0 (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) I would greatly prefer ZIP and/or MPD (I just thought of another idea for LDLite (sorry gyug): ZIP support). I think inlining makes it too difficult to follow the building process. About following the building process, will it be required that (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) Wouldn't adding the year take care of this? Or you could take the pause/lugnet approach: s6938-1.dat s6938-2.dat etc.. submodels of this set could be: s6938-1a.dat s6938-1b.dat etc.. It just barely fits in the 8.3 format, but it would probably (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) and (...) send them if (...) we can to get (...) Tim, I'm the person who was supposed to be helping with the reviewing and editting so that 'we' also refers to me. Who else was willing to help? I'll still review and edit, but could someone (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) Typically, sets with duplicate numbers have nothing to do with each other.[1] So it isn't really accurate to consider one set as an alternate of the other. Steve 1) There are exceptions, where variations of a set are available, such as 6938, (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) I agree. Although having both the instructions and the set is infinitely better than having neither the instructions nor the set, a set can probably be *checked* having only the instructions and not the set, to an accuracy of 99% or higher (if (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) I would have to say that to check these it would be highly reccommended that you have the actual set. but again, that depends on the size and complexity of the model. Obviously just instructions would do for a small car, but might not for say (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) If they're related or not is beyond me, but someone could investigate the duplicates to look for similarities. The duplicates are never in production at the same time, so they are a few years apart at the least. They could be of the same theme (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
John VanZwieten wrote in message ... (...) set (...) different (...) only (...) "T7140a_1". I (...) how (...) What if we would consider the content of a duplicate set as alternate models of the same set numbers. Eg. 7140 is duplicate set then, (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) That's a great question. Someone with only the instructions ought to be able to find suspicious looking things (e.g., potential mistakes), but probably can't prove something to be 100.00% correct. Some LEGO instruction booklets do contain (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) Ahh, nope, I'm not. Well, not exactly. There are two different ways to look at "uninlining": one view is that it's simply removing the extra code, and restoring the original reference statement. This approach works, as long as you have the (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)


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