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Re: Embedded language support in LPub
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lugnet.cad.dev
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Tue, 8 Apr 2003 23:23:24 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Mike Walsh writes:
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> "Dan Boger" <dan@peeron.com> wrote in message
> news:20030408155024.GC15747@peeron.com...
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> > it's true that Tcl is probably easier to read and support, over the
> > phone. Perl is more powerful, and therefor harder to understand what a
> > user is trying to do in his code.
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> Not just over the phone, live and in person as well. More powerful does not
> always mean something s better. Perl allows people to do a lot of
> processing in a very compact syntax. That can be a good thing or a bad
> thing. The usage of some of Perl's compact syntax can result in code that
> is very hard to understand - sometimes even for the author if they haven't
> looked at it in a while. Of course well commented code usually alleviates
> these types of problems but it is hard to depend on users to comment their
> code well.
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> > I'm not sure this would be an issue for LPub though.
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> I am curious as to why this might not be an issue for LPub? With Kevin's
> book on the shelves of bookstores (at least I assume it is), there is likely
> to be a community of people who are not LUGNET users nor are they hard core
> computer users who will be introduced to LPub and all of the other L-Draw
> related tools.
I want to make one thing clear.... The embedded scripting is for the power
users... As power users develop new ideas I will encorporate them into LPub
in a way that the novice does not require the novice to be an expert.
LPub is powerful, yet easy to use, by design. It will continue to do so.
Hopefully those 7th grade kids won't have such powerful needs that they have
to go learn their first programming language, just to use LPub.
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> I would think the last thing Kevin would want is to start receiving lots of
> e-mail on how to this and how to do that with LPub. With a fairly small and
> what appears to be a highly computer literate user base, LPub can currently
> assume a certain level of savy. I don't think that will always be the case.
> LPub has already made it possible for a lot of people to create very nice
> instructions quickly who previously didn't have the patience or possibly the
> know how to work through the tedious instruction building process.
I already get a lot of email on "how to do this, and how to do that" (Tim
has been not reading my book so that he is sure his book is his own! LOL!)
I've gotten a lot of great input from Tim and others like him. The emails
come with the territory.
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> Imagine a 7th grade class being introduced to ML-CAD and related L-Draw
> tools for a LEGO based computer project? Is that audience better served
> with a language like Perl or Tcl? Is a 7th grade class even a target
> audience?
The 7th grade class should not need either. If they do, it is because their
own abilities drive them there, and those abilities will let them move to
whatever laguages that are chosen.
Kevin
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> Another $0.02 from me - now I am up to $0.04 as well! ;-)
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> Mike
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> --
> Mike Walsh - mike_walsh at mindspring.com
> http://www.ncltc.cc - North Carolina LEGO Train Club
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