 | | Questions About Selling Custom Model Instructions: Confirming LEGO/LDraw Consent —Jim DeVona
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| | | Hi! Here are three questions: one about LEGO trademarks and two for the LDraw community. The questions stem from a casual interest in selling custom LEGO kits with instructions. Because there are existing vendors of excellent such kits - and books (...) (16 years ago, 17-Aug-08, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | Re: Questions About Selling Custom Model Instructions: Confirming LEGO/LDraw Consent —Tore Eriksson
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| | | | | (...) My and other LDraw part authors' work are used in sites like BrickLink to promote LEGO parts for sale. No problems with me. Using my LDraw parts in sold instructions doesn't bother me either. Selling software with my work included does not (...) (16 years ago, 17-Aug-08, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | Re: Questions About Selling Custom Model Instructions: Confirming LEGO/LDraw Consent —Jim DeVona
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| | | | | | (...) Thanks for your answers, Tore. Only instructions would be sold, so software would not be a concern. Jim (16 years ago, 19-Aug-08, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | Re: Questions About Selling Custom Model Instructions: Confirming LEGO/LDraw Consent —Willy Tschager
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| | | | Hi Jim, some of these questions have been answered before. This is a bit lengthy: (URL) all boils down to this final policy: (URL) version will be shipped with the new CA-Library) We also had a similar discussion quite recently: (URL) for copyright (...) (16 years ago, 19-Aug-08, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | Re: Questions About Selling Custom Model Instructions: Confirming LEGO/LDraw Consent —Jim DeVona
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| | | | (...) Yes. The purpose of my post was to have them answered again, up-to-date and in direct response to the ideas I set forth. (...) The readme suggests that rendered images are not considered derivative works. Since an instruction booklet consists (...) (16 years ago, 19-Aug-08, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | Re: Questions About Selling Custom Model Instructions: Confirming LEGO/LDraw Consent —Jim DeVona
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| | | | | (...) Since the discussion you linked contained much debate about the derivative status of rendered images, I'd like to know if anyone wearing a SteerCo hat can confirm my conclusion. "Commercial sale of instruction images rendered from LDraw models (...) (16 years ago, 19-Aug-08, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | Re: Questions About Selling Custom Model Instructions: Confirming LEGO/LDraw Consent —Orion Pobursky
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| | | | | | | (...) True, and given the amount of LEGO related books that have been published in the last few years we have a set a precedence supporting this idea. -Orion (16 years ago, 19-Aug-08, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | Re: Questions About Selling Custom Model Instructions: Confirming LEGO/LDraw Consent —Daniel Siskind
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| | | | | | | (...) Such a rule about the using images generated from Ldraw would be impossible to enforce even if it did exist. That would be like Microsoft claiming ownership of every document made with MS Office or a paint company saying that they own the end (...) (16 years ago, 19-Aug-08, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Questions About Selling Custom Model Instructions: Confirming LEGO/LDraw Consent —Jim DeVona
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| | | | | | | | | (...) That makes sense to me. I was careful to ask because of how vigorously the opposing point was argued in that discussion - by some LDraw committee members, no less. (...) I wrote that in jest. (What, you mean you're not rolling in gold (...) (16 years ago, 19-Aug-08, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Questions About Selling Custom Model Instructions: Confirming LEGO/LDraw Consent —Ahui Herrera
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) If you plan on selling your instructions online be it ebay, some other auction house, or your own website make sure you have the following. "Legal Notice Required Per Directive Of The LEGO Group for Online Listings via Legal Analyst of LEGO (...) (16 years ago, 21-Aug-08, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO in auction titles (was: Questions About Selling Custom Model Instructions) —Dean Earley
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) I guess that's why I'm not getting emails of new results matching "LEGO" from eBay :) (16 years ago, 23-Aug-08, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO in auction titles (was: Questions About Selling Custom Model Instructions) —Ahui Herrera
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Let me expand on this a bit before I set in confusion amount the readers. If you are selling an offical LEGO product (say Star Wars Falcon #100) you **CAN** in the title say: "LEGO Star Wars Falcon #100" or use the term "LEGO" becuase you are (...) (16 years ago, 26-Aug-08, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Questions About Selling Custom Model Instructions: Confirming LEGO/LDraw Consent —Timothy Gould
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| | | | | | | | (...) Your examples are not the same process. There's a difference between constructing something using software as a tool and constructing something using constituent visual components which can be copyrighted. That said, the actual design of the (...) (16 years ago, 21-Aug-08, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Questions About Selling Custom Model Instructions: Confirming LEGO/LDraw Consent —Richie Dulin
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Are you sure you don't mean "...not _with_ a SteerCo hat on" or perhaps "...without a SteerCo hat on"? Or is my thinking cap malfunctioning? Cheers Richie Dulin CO Legeaux (16 years ago, 22-Aug-08, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Questions About Selling Custom Model Instructions: Confirming LEGO/LDraw Consent —Timothy Gould
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) The SteerCo hat was off my head as the space was occupied by the incorrect double negative hat. Tim (16 years ago, 22-Aug-08, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Questions About Selling Custom Model Instructions: Confirming LEGO/LDraw Consent —Daniel Siskind
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| | | | | | | | (...) The difference is you are selling an image of a product and NOT an exact duplicate of a product. LEGO may have certain trademarks over the specific design of their bricks, their name, their branding, etc., but they can't stop anyone from (...) (16 years ago, 26-Aug-08, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | Re: Questions About Selling Custom Model Instructions: Confirming LEGO/LDraw Consent —Kevin L. Clague
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| | | | | | (...) Jim, There are a dozen books out there with building instructions made using LDraw tools. I've been involved with four. No-one has ever expressed negative attitudes about this activity (OK, every book has its critics ;^) IMHO the for profit (...) (16 years ago, 21-Aug-08, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | Re: Questions About Selling Custom Model Instructions: Confirming LEGO/LDraw Consent —Willy Tschager
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| | | | (...) I have addressed this to the SteerCo in order to elaborate an official statement. Said this, I'm in sync with Orion when he states that "Commercial sale of instruction images rendered from LDraw models does NOT violate the CA" since they are (...) (16 years ago, 19-Aug-08, to lugnet.cad)
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