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Hi Borislav -
First off, I'm quoting your message with one of the latter paragraphs first:
> Please understand that right now I am being very nice about all of this, and I
> do not want you to waste anymore space in build.mecha with your gossiping, and
> I really don't think that the guys at "general" need any of it either.
I would suggest if you want to make your point and have it be well accepted
by the person you are targeting it at, you try not to insult them or attack
in such a harsh way. I certainly don't think you are being 'nice' about this.
Dave Johann brought up a wonderful point in off-topic.debate:
[part of a quoted reply from Bryce McGlone]
> > Tim,
> > I have no idea why when you don't post in mecha nor build mecha you feel
> > compelled to comment on what is happening in the mecha group.
[Dave's comments]
> For the same reason I feel compelled to post in .casle or .train-to be
> heard. There's no crime in that. Anyone who doesn't want to view a group
> should filter it out. I can't tell you the last time I read a message in
> Italian thanks to Lugnet's filtering capability. :)
The full post can be found at: http://news.lugnet.com/off-topic/debate/?n=15428
I posted here to have my views heard. A situation (the thread) came up
which I was concerned about. I posted. No crime on my part. Perhaps my
views would have been better received by a couple more people had I had more
credibility in build.mecha. But reading the replies I have gotten, I think
that most agree - or if they disagree, very few have said anything about it.
And in almost all situations, not everyone will agree with you, so I'm
certainly not shaken that a couple people don't share my opinion on this.
> I am
> therefore asking that any replies to this messege be made privately, as this
> pure idiocity and noncense has absolutely no place here! Stick to the outline
> of this newsgroup, otherwise, pleasee do not post here at all.
I am replying to this publicly because of the inflammatory nature of your
post. I debated replying or leaving it unreplied to, I feel this is better.
After this post, I won't 'clutter' build.mecha with my comments on this
matter. My further discussion of the issue will take place either in
off-topic.debate or via personal email.
In lugnet.build.mecha, Borislav Marinov writes:
> Dear Tim,
> I do not know who the hell you are. More presicesely, I do not know who the
> hell you think you are, and I don't really care at all! What I do care, is
> who the hell do you think you are to just barge in here and to accuse that
> there are people at build.mecha building just for the praise!?
To reply to this and your request above for me not to post here at all:
I don't know who you are, and I don't care either. I don't know who you
think you are to tell me not to post in a group when I have full posting
privileges and am discussing on topic to the thread, which centered around a
social situation of the group it was in.
Nevertheless, I understand now this disucssion is wandering off-topic, and I
have acknowledged that this is my last post to build.mecha on this subject.
> Not only do you
> insult build.mecha by saying that there are such builders, but you also insult
> build.mecha by saying that people here can not seperate a well built and
> innovative mecha from a half baked design made just to recieve praise! When
> you insult build.mecha, you also directly insult me!
If you (the active ingredient here) are directly insulted (by your own
choice) by what I have to say here, I think that is pretty sad.
Nonetheless, suit yourself. Feel free to walk around acting offended at
things people say, I won't stop you.
> Why don't you try
> building a mech or two, and then see if any of the mecha here have recieved
> even a fraction of the attention they should!? In addition, posting personal
> accusations is not in the build.mecha charter, and as such, you had no right
> to post them here in the first place to begin with!
Seeing that at no point did I accuse anyone by name, I never made a personal
accusation.
Also, its generally accepted for groups to wander off-topic from time to
time. LUGNET has a set of off-topic groups to handle the wildly off-topic
discussions. But, this thread pertained to the group of people posting
here, so I agrue that it was on-topic for discussion here. It is wandering
off-topic now though.
> Your comment about the builders here has no place in "general" either, so why
> don't you ask for someone to create
> lugnet.waste-your-time.gossiping-about-people-who-can-actually-build just for
> you?
My comments certainly pertain to the community. And realize your pathetic
attempts at insults do absolutely nothing for me, except perhaps make me not
want to listen to what you have to say (the insults really diminish the
point you are trying to make in my eyes). Which my guess is that's not what
you want.
> If you have some comments to make about the people at build.mecha and
> insult our intelligense, (and not to mention wasting our time) then why didn't
> you at least share your full opinions!?
I have to ask, where are you pulling this from? Where did I insult anyone's
intelligence here? You make accusations towards me and have no way to back
them up.
I didn't share my full opinion because I have a sense of what is appropriate
for public discussion and what isn't. I also know enough to understand that
personal insults do nothing to make the target of your message more
sympathetic to your views.
x-fut --> off-topic.debate
-Tim
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