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    Coolest Brickshelf account —John Neal
   Have you seen one of the coolest Brickshelf accounts... lately? (URL) HERE> it is (Bookmark worthy!) Koyan, you da man (hey, it even rhymes:-) JOHN (19 years ago, 20-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space, FTX)  
   
        Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Stefan Garcia
     I believe there was some fuss about it a while ago, and rightly so. Without Koyan, BrickSpace would've been a whole helluvalot harder. -Stefan- (19 years ago, 21-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space, FTX)
    
         Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Ross Crawford
     (...) Agreed! And I believe John was the one making a lot of the fuss ;) (URL) (19 years ago, 21-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space)
    
         Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) someone else is creating and wanting others to be aware of it so they can be happy too? There seem to be some that think that mentioning that something is worthy of mention or notice is something to belittle or ridicule. I just don't get that. (...) (19 years ago, 21-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space)  
    
         Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Ross Crawford
      (...) No. (...) No. (...) Well you read it wrong. And I don't see what it has to do with you anyway. ROSCO (19 years ago, 21-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space) ! 
     
          Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Larry Pieniazek
      XFUT lugnet.people (...) Good! (...) Good again, that's great. However... You snipped the most important part of the post, the point I was trying to make: (...) Do you deny that there do seem to be some people that seem to think that way? Do you (...) (19 years ago, 21-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space, lugnet.people)
     
          Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Rob Hendrix
        "Larry Pieniazek" <lar(at@at)miltontra...t.dot)com> wrote in message news:IIFu1u.12Kq@lugnet.com... (...) Please tell us, oh God of tactful posts, how to please all the Lugnetters all the time with such poise and gracefulness as to *never* come off (...) (19 years ago, 21-Jun-05, to lugnet.people)  
      
           Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Larry Pieniazek
       (...) Ha, if you're talking to me (which I hope you're not) you've got me confused with someone else, tactful posting is not one of my core competencies, sorry. (...) That's not possible. But it's possible to be nice instead of mocking. (...) Let me (...) (19 years ago, 21-Jun-05, to lugnet.people)
     
          Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Kevin L. Clague
       (...) Isn't LUGNET a great place?!? The bully returneth. Larry, I see no value added in your posts, except to make sure the fight that you are trying to promote gets started. This thread is now off topic. Please take it someplace else. Kevin - (19 years ago, 21-Jun-05, to lugnet.people) !! 
      
           (canceled) —Larry Pieniazek
      
           Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Rob Hendrix
        "Larry Pieniazek" <lar(at@at)miltontra...t.dot)com> wrote in message news:IIFyFr.209v@lugnet.com... (...) Boys. Boys.... remember the key words here: LEGO Lugnet Adult Toys ..and offsite communications should have no clout here. Rob ...and, Jacko (...) (19 years ago, 21-Jun-05, to lugnet.people)
      
           Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Kevin L. Clague
        (...) I am soooo glad you resigned...... (...) FYI Larry. You are jacka. As is proven by your paragraph above. Kevin (...) - (19 years ago, 21-Jun-05, to lugnet.people)  
       
            Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Leonard Hoffman
        (...) Yes, me too. I'm so glad that one of the few people around here with real organizational skills has decided not to apply his many talents to the LEGO Community. Jumping out of the wood work to namecall is really helpful and wonderful. Maybe (...) (19 years ago, 21-Jun-05, to lugnet.people)
       
            Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Scott Arthur
         (...) Well said. However, Larry's "resignation" also has its benefits. (...) Who are you jumping out of the woodwork to call a name-caller? ;) (...) How many chances does he deserve? Scott A (19 years ago, 22-Jun-05, to lugnet.people)
        
             Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —John Neal
         (...) Of course Lenny was being ironical. (...) I assume your "winkie" is an acknowledgment that you are a hypocrite. But even that realization couldn't keep you away. (...) 77 times. Now run along, and take your bellows with you. JOHN (19 years ago, 22-Jun-05, to lugnet.people, FTX)
        
             Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Scott Arthur
         (...) I'm tempted to ask you to explain that, but I expect it would be a wasted effort. ho hum Scott A (...) (19 years ago, 22-Jun-05, to lugnet.people, FTX)
       
            Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Kevin L. Clague
         (...) I'm glad you explained this Leonard, I didn't know that John was a friend of Larry's. Maybe it would have helped me understand how the tone went from "possibly a little ribbing", to totally confrontational and combative in one step. Maybe I (...) (19 years ago, 22-Jun-05, to lugnet.people)
        
             Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Leonard Hoffman
         (...) I'm guessing that Larry didn't know it was ribbing, or else he'd have tried to join in. Sometimes Larry has difficulty telling what is a joke and what isn't. But when I read Rosco's post, albeit with kidding involved, there is the subtext that (...) (19 years ago, 22-Jun-05, to lugnet.people, FTX)
        
             Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Kevin L. Clague
         (...) If that were the tone of Larry's post, you would never have heard a word from me. (...) Ahh. You are upset with me calling Larry a name, yet you call me three different names in one sentence. I'm not chastizing your for that because that would (...) (19 years ago, 22-Jun-05, to lugnet.people, FTX)  
        
             noise [was: Coolest Brickshelf account] —Suzanne Rich Green
          (...) Please move this slap-session or cease it. -Suz (19 years ago, 22-Jun-05, to lugnet.people)
         
              Re: noise [was: Coolest Brickshelf account] —Leonard Hoffman
          (...) Where should it be moved to? (19 years ago, 22-Jun-05, to lugnet.people)
         
              Re: noise [was: Coolest Brickshelf account] —Rob Hendrix
           "Leonard Hoffman" <lahoffma@mailer.fsu.edu> wrote in message news:III4xy.s8w@lugnet.com... (...) try- off-topic.shut-the-h...-something :P (19 years ago, 22-Jun-05, to lugnet.people)
         
              I'm shutting up was Re: noise [was: Coolest Brickshelf account] —Leonard Hoffman
          (...) whatever (19 years ago, 22-Jun-05, to lugnet.people)
         
              Re: I'm shutting up was Re: noise [was: Coolest Brickshelf account] —Peter Blencowe
          This is dumb. I mean realy dumb. Let's have a play by play of the main thread. John posts a gallery he thinks is cool. Stefan notes this has been said before. Ross notes that John was the one who said it. Larry posts a somewhat reactionary replay (...) (19 years ago, 24-Jun-05, to lugnet.people)
        
             Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Leonard Hoffman
         (...) I thought I was trying to be diplomatic. But whatever. Be a jerk for all I care. (19 years ago, 22-Jun-05, to lugnet.people, FTX)
       
            Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Ross Crawford
        (...) It's a pity Larry (URL) couldn't extend me that same courtesy>, this whole mess could have been avoided. As I said in an email to Larry, a simple email to me pointing out that my post could be seen as mocking, would most likely have prompted (...) (19 years ago, 23-Jun-05, to lugnet.people, FTX) ! 
       
            Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Larry Pieniazek
        (...) In future, I'll try that avenue first. Hopefully you've turned a new leaf and will respond to questions in a direct, honest and forthright manner, so that's the way I'll go. I always hope for the best, after all, even when I didn't get it in (...) (19 years ago, 24-Jun-05, to lugnet.people, FTX)
      
           Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Duane Hess
       (...) He wasn't proven "innocent", so much as "not guilty." -Duane FUT: ot-debate (19 years ago, 21-Jun-05, to lugnet.people)
     
          Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Ross Crawford
       (...) Let's see. I agree with Stefan (and hence John), and post a little extra info pertaining to the subject of the thread. You reply, questioning my motives, and adding an opinion which, although apparently important to you, has nothing to do with (...) (19 years ago, 22-Jun-05, to lugnet.people)  
     
          Re: Mocking (was: Coolest Brickshelf account) —Ross Crawford
       (...) I would be surprised if there are not - it takes all kinds. (...) Depends on the beholder, so my denial or otherwise is irrelevant. (...) Certainly. (...) I don't recall doing so, but if I have, I'm sure you'll point me to it. Have you? (...) (...) (19 years ago, 22-Jun-05, to lugnet.people, lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
     
          Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Scott Arthur
      (...) He was proven wealthy. ;) Scott A (...) (19 years ago, 22-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Kevin L. Clague
      (...) Well, that is not how I read it at all. Did you notice the smiley? I interpret your post as though you are looking for a fight. Kevin (19 years ago, 21-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space) ! 
     
          Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) Yep. If I kick someone and then smile, it doesn't make the kick hurt less, though, does it? (...) Wasn't intended that way, sorry if it came off that way. (19 years ago, 21-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space)
    
         Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Scott Lyttle
      (...) (putting on the verbal bomb squad suit...) Ok, this "fuss" can be interpreted as a "bad" thing, or a good thing. Guess you just have to know Ross... Frankly, after reading the posts on those links, I couldn't see anything but praise (maybe the (...) (19 years ago, 21-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space)
     
          Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Soren Roberts
      If you guys have to start yet another noisy bitchfest, at least put it where it belongs... FUT set. Soren (19 years ago, 21-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space)
    
         Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Stefan Garcia
     ...What? Leave the poor feller alone, seems like he was just pointing out the link to the original threads, that I'd neglected to track down. -Stefan- (19 years ago, 21-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space)
   
        Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Jaco van der Molen
     "John" <John@TCLTC.org> schreef in bericht news:IIEMHp.1w0z@lugnet.com... (...) Seen it, been there, downloaded them all :-) Jaco (19 years ago, 21-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space)
    
         Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Koyan Töreni
     "Jaco van der Molen" <jmolen@zonnet.nl> wrote in news:IIG4Gr.yEz@lugnet.com: (...) :) You may want to re-check periodically. I'm constantly updating renders whenever I find a better way to make them, or .mpd's whenever new missing pieces become (...) (19 years ago, 22-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space)
   
        Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Jason Spears
     (...) John, I remember checking it out when you'd posted the link before, but I had not been there lately. Wowza. I was missing out. Lots of good stuff added. I've got new backgrounds for a few weeks/months now! Thanks for posting the link again to (...) (19 years ago, 21-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, FTX)
   
        Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Didier Enjary
     (...) Very good job koyan ! and thanks to John for highlighting the gallery. Well, too much space stuff and not enough train stuff :-) ...check the classic space gallery seems to be complete , that's just amazing. Renderings looks very good (...) (19 years ago, 22-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space, lugnet.trains, FTX)
    
         Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Koyan Töreni
      "Didier Enjary" <d.enjary@wanadoo.fr> wrote in news:IIH65w.1t15@lugnet.com: (...) I'm working on that. ;) (...) The classic space gallery is one of the oldest though. I'm not entirely happy with the renderings anymore, so I'll be replacing them as (...) (19 years ago, 22-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space, lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Dean Earley
       (...) (URL) I can't remember where I originally downloaded it from :( (19 years ago, 22-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Koyan Töreni
       Dean Earley <dean@earlsoft.co.uk> wrote in news:IIHBxn.uvv@lugnet.com: (...) Check it now. ;) ((URL) until moderation kicks in.) Cheers! Koyan (19 years ago, 22-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Joel Hoornbeek
       In lugnet.build, Koyan Töreni wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) Koyan, Actually, I prefer the render style of the Classic Space images more than the recent renders that you have posted. I guess I like the plain white background, as opposed to new (...) (19 years ago, 24-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space, lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Thomas Burger
      (...) that "grapeape" guy has alot of interesting stuff in his gallery as well. wait grapeape is me. :) i finished the container grab part a few weeks ago to (19 years ago, 29-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space, lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Koyan Töreni
      "Thomas Burger" <tburger34@spam.no.a...lphia.net> wrote in news:IIto4I.13AB@lugnet.com: (...) :P Thanks for the great work, Thomas! Koyan (19 years ago, 29-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space, lugnet.trains)
     
          Grape Ape Designs (was Re: Coolest Brickshelf account) —James Mathis
       (...) Indeed! Thanks, Thomas. I recall you CAD work from ages ago. I think one of the earliest renderings I saw of yours was this (URL) Thalys set based on red train nose parts>. I have eyed with great interest many of your other model renderings, (...) (19 years ago, 29-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space, lugnet.trains, FTX)
     
          Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —John O'Keefe
      How do you guys make great renders like that? Do you have any suggestions or POV settings that I could try to improve my renders? Any tips on camera position, lights, etc? Your renderings are awesome! If anyone knows of any websites that have good (...) (19 years ago, 23-Dec-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space, lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —John Neal
     (...) Well, if Koyan weren't so modest I wouldn't have to! :-) But apparently he is, so I will continue to toot his horn periodically for those who might not have heard it;-) JOHN (19 years ago, 22-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space, lugnet.trains, FTX)
   
        Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Paul Baulch
     (...) This brickshelf account doesn't contain any pictures of original MOCs... what's the attraction in looking at a bunch of pictures of official sets we've seen many times already? Render fetishism? Seems like a waste of time to me. Cheers, Paul (19 years ago, 22-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space, FTX)
    
         Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —John Neal
     (...) What if there was a BS folder that contained rendered CGIs of every LEGO set, all in one place, all with .mpd files, all previewable as Koyan has presented them, in sequential order-- you can't see any value in that? (...) Sometimes I think my (...) (19 years ago, 22-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space, FTX)
    
         Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Orion Pobursky
     (...) I postulate that hobbies by their very nature are wastes of time. If they weren't a waste of time then they wouldn't be hobbies. Whether or not you attach a negative meaning to the term "waste" does not change anything. -Orion (19 years ago, 22-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space, FTX)
    
         Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —John Neal
     (...) Well, I think "waste" is a negative term. Hobbies are a way to spend time. For me, hobbies, at their best, are a creative way for a person to express themselves, perhaps given the fact that sometimes one's vocation doesn't allow for such (...) (19 years ago, 23-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space, FTX)
    
         Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Kevin L. Clague
     (...) John, "Waste" is a negative term for me too. My job allows for a lot of creative expression, but I need something more tactile in my hobby. I sit on my *** butt all day and type. Plenty of cerebral activity and creativity, but debugging (...) (19 years ago, 23-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space, FTX)
    
         Building Techniques (was: Re: Coolest Brickshelf account) —John Neal
     (...) Good point. (...) Yes, I do the same kind of revision style building myself; I make many small revisions along the way, but when I finish, I hardly ever go back after a period of time to revise further. I was talking more about "mistakes" in (...) (19 years ago, 23-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, FTX)
   
        Re: Coolest Brickshelf account —Jan Folkersma
   Ever since I first entered the SOTM competition on LDRAW, it died. Should we now all go for this CBA competition? If yes, here's my entry: (URL) account>> (19 years ago, 29-Jun-05, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space, FTX)
 

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