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Re: Coolest Brickshelf account
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Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:52:54 GMT
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In lugnet.people, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
> In lugnet.people, Kevin L. Clague wrote:
> > In lugnet.people, Rob Hendrix wrote:
> > >
> > > "Larry Pieniazek" <lar(at@at)miltontrainworks(dot.dot)com> wrote in message
> > > news:IIFyFr.209v@lugnet.com...
> > > > In lugnet.people, Kevin L. Clague wrote:
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> > > > > Isn't LUGNET a great place?!? The bully returneth.
> > > >
> > > > Your opinion is noted but all I'm trying to do here is turn over a few
> > > > rocks and
> > > > (perhaps) show who's really doing the bullying.
> >
> > I am soooo glad you resigned......
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> Yes, me too. I'm so glad that one of the few people around here with real
> organizational skills has decided not to apply his many talents to the LEGO
> Community. Jumping out of the wood work to namecall is really helpful and
> wonderful.
>
> Maybe Larry mistook Rosco's use of the word "fuss." Sure, whatever. And maybe
> Larry was just trying to stand up for his friend John Neal. What about that?
> Larry doing something noble and worthwhile? Holy patootie. I guess we can
> never think Larry was doing something nice.
I'm glad you explained this Leonard, I didn't know that John was a friend of
Larry's. Maybe it would have helped me understand how the tone went from
"possibly a little ribbing", to totally confrontational and combative in one
step.
Maybe I was doing something noble too? It can happen. I was standing up for my
friend Rosco. Maybe I don't read as much into Rosco's writings as Larry does.
One could read Rosco's post many different ways. I guess there is no room for a
little friendly ribbing?
Larry's response seemed a tremendous overreaction to me, but maybe there is a
whole lot of context here that I am unaware of. I know there is not good
chemistry between Rosco and Larry. Larry has been communicating with me
privatly (very respectfully) to help me understand some of the context from his
perspective. I'm still trying to find out if the context provided is really
related, but I appreciate having civil conversation with him.
To me, the simple outsider, Larry's response to Rosco's post was an attack,
provoking a fight, trying to win by posing hypothetical arguments, rather than
substantive information. I merely stuck up for my friend.
I didn't like Larry being content police when he was an admin, and I still don't
like it when he is not. I beleive that diplomacy is not one of Larry's strong
suits.
Never once did I complain about his organization skills or his work ethic. From
what I understand he is very successful in many adventures, including his
professional life. People consider me a very active and productive person, but
I know I could not keep up the busy lifestyle that Larry lives. I respect him
for that and am still in awe of how he does it. This however does not mean I
should ignore some of his behaviors that I believe are still to the detriment of
LUGNET.
Nor should you ignore mine. Larry, I apologize for the name calling.
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> What if we all took a moment and imagined that the person making a post isn't
> doing so to be mean and hurtful, but they are trying to make a joke. Maybe the
> joke isn't funny, but lets give them the possibility of being misunderstood.
We wouldn't be having this conversation if Larry had interpreted Rosco's post
through this perspective, but he did not.
Was I supposed to interpret Larry's post as humorous and non-combative? I'd
love to hear your interpretation of Larry's post with perspectives you outline
above. Please share.
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> And that applies as equally to Larry as it does to Rosco or whomever. Give
> Larry a chance to be a good guy, rather than assuming everything he does is to
> be a bully.
Hmmm.... I don't perceive that everything Larry does is being bulligerent. If
so I would reply to every one of his posts using the word bulligerent (which is
not name calling, right)?
I only see Larry as being bulligerent in some of his posts, and for some of them
I point it out.
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> -Lenny
Kevin
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| (...) I'm guessing that Larry didn't know it was ribbing, or else he'd have tried to join in. Sometimes Larry has difficulty telling what is a joke and what isn't. But when I read Rosco's post, albeit with kidding involved, there is the subtext that (...) (19 years ago, 22-Jun-05, to lugnet.people, FTX)
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| (...) Yes, me too. I'm so glad that one of the few people around here with real organizational skills has decided not to apply his many talents to the LEGO Community. Jumping out of the wood work to namecall is really helpful and wonderful. Maybe (...) (19 years ago, 21-Jun-05, to lugnet.people)
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