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Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> > But this fails to address something I see as a larger problem- that the
> > off-topic.debate group is being used for more than just a release valve for
> > off-topic arguments/discussions that by the nature of newsgroups automatically
> > crop up from time to time, and are instead being used to support ongoing,
> > unsolvable and ultimately meaningless diatribes and debates. If there were a
> > way to reasonably solve that problem, I'd rather see that addressed
> > specifically.
>
> Well, some would argue that the god debate has meaning, since those of us on
> the wrong side are in danger of losing our immortal souls, etc. But ya.
> Definintely unresolvable, no matter what, though.
The recent history of .debate is certainly that the types of shouting
matches have little chance of being productive, however, I will point
out that back some time ago, the "Libertarian" debate DID have real
productivity. It DID change someone's outlook (and being the person
who's outlook was changed, I think I can say that authoratively). That's
what I'd like to return to, the productive debate.
--
Frank Filz
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| (...) Hear, hear! Though I don't expect that I'll switch to Libertarianism or Christianity any time soon, I have learned a good deal about those two views. That, for me, is the primary reason for participating in .debate (that, and getting the (...) (24 years ago, 18-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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| I *said* they had flaws and were thought starters... so you'll see a smiley behind every one of my responses, I'm trying to be funny in them. I suggest you post some ideas of your own, I'm trying to get some brainstorming going... (...) Why not? (...) (24 years ago, 18-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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