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Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> I'm of half a mind to say... get rid of it completely, then ruthlessly quash
> any debating that breaks out in other groups. I'm not sure I see the safety
> valve as actually working.
>
> What I would suggest instead (and yes, this is a crutch to give willpower)
> is some sort of "governor" scheme... to prevent wildfires. I dunno if it's
> worth the effort to implement it but here are a few variants: (None are
> perfect, in fact many have holes I can spot, they're thought starters)
>
> - Allow one post per x hours per person... enforced by allowing only members
> to even post and only when they are signed in and using the web interface,
> so there cannot be any spoofing. This slows growth and by limiting posts,
> requires people to think about what they say as they have a "time limit" of
> sorts.
Only post via the web interface? NO THANKS. I've posted maybe a total of 5
times via the web interface (and only because I was in a training class, not on
any of my computers). Broken.
> - Thread depth restriction... when a thread root has 20 branches, stop it
> from accepting any other posts, coupled with a restriction of only one new
> thread start per person per X days. This also slows growth and has the
> advantage of keeping tree view working, .debate is the worst forum from the
> perspective of proportion of threads so large that tree view doesn't work.
Then people would just watch the branches to make sure they were the 20th post,
to get the last word in - broken.
> - moderator with preview, moderated by someone (or a rotating committee)
> held in high regard for impartiality who disallows posts that are
> "repetitive" or "non substantive", with no appeal.
There's no one person anyone would trust to moderate ANY topic whatsoever.
Broken.
> - Moderator but with a thread focus, the moderator monitors thread starts
> and stops threads from starting that are repetitive.
>
> There are probably other permuations of moderating.
All broken.
> One permutation is self moderation. Allow people who have posted recently to
> "disallow" someone from posting for a cooling off period if a majority vote
> requires it. Or permanently?
>
> The question is, are any of these worth the development effort on Todd's
> part vs. just killing the thing? I would argue that some of this stuff is
> reusable elsewhere but I dunno how reusable.
They don't sound worth it.
I don't know if Todd already has this in place or not, but simply not showing
the .debate posts on the Newest Posts list on the front of news.lugnet.com, and
limiting .debate posts from showing in any search (except explicitly choosing
.debate as the search group) would do wonders to lowering the perceived traffic
for people who could care less about .debate.
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| (...) I wasn't clear enough. I was looking for some brainstorming on possible solutions first before we trotted out the sharpened knives to rip holes in the ideas. All the ones i posted were dreamt up in about 5 minutes total to act as thought (...) (24 years ago, 18-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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| (...) Ya, the default is to omit .off-topic and .admin noise: (URL) and limiting .debate posts from showing in any search (except explicitly (...) That would be a bit trickier but might come almost for free since it already filters out groups not in (...) (24 years ago, 18-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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| (...) I'll take some culpability here, I'm a sucker for trying to show up the clueless, and no matter how many times I swear it off, it's just too tempting... he's just so cluelessly annoying when he wants to be. (but he CAN be a good contributor (...) (24 years ago, 18-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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