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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Frank Filz writes:
> Well, after another few weeks of .debate, I'm really really thinking I'm
> just going to abandon it, and honestly, more and more, I'm feeling it's
> a waste of Lugnet resources...
Well, I just went through the 24 posts that make up this thread at the time
that I noticed it.
Hmmm.
I've been disappointed with the debates of late too, and maybe I'm partly to
blame, but I think it's really only the past couple months that have kind of
sucked.
I don't think we need any of the solutions that people have suggested, and I
think that killing the group would be far, far worse than leaving it alone.
What I think we need is a bit of social moderation. I became genuinely angry
for the first time in .debate last week. My response was to withdraw from the
thread. It was the only graceful thing I could do.
First, if we all tried to work a bit harder at withdrawing from .debates that
we know are going nowhere, then maybe we'd see a better group. Also, would it
be possible to publically or privately censure those who post inappropriately?
That would be uncomfortable, but could we get used to it? It runs the risk of
inflaming emotions, but if we could learn to suck it up, the payoff might be
really good.
> I think there are interesting things to debate, but it isn't happening
> here, and I honestly don't forsee it ever happening.
I disagree. There have been interesting threads, even if they end up
sidetracked into uninteresting fights. I personally benefit from reading the
opinions of others.
> One problem is that too many of the folks who are interested in
> honest debates have given up here.
If we clean it up, we can invite them back.
> I'm also not convinced that the rancor generated in .debate will always
> stay there.
Always is a long time. So you're probably right. But in general, it seems to
work well.
The idea has been expressed in this thread that .debate is for naturally
evolved debates to spill into and be contained. I don't think that's all that
it is for. I think it is also the intent of the creator that people will just
start debate topics for the interest or joy of the debate. And I think that's
good. I've said it before, but I enjoy debating (when it's good) with you
folks because for whatever reason, the group of AFsOL here is better and
handling the forum.
my $.02,
Chris
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| (...) I assume you mean "informally" in that for example, Frank sends me a note telling me to cool it... or vice versa. (because if you mean formally we're back to a moderator/council/review thingie) I think that's a good idea. More... I think it (...) (24 years ago, 19-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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| Well, after another few weeks of .debate, I'm really really thinking I'm just going to abandon it, and honestly, more and more, I'm feeling it's a waste of Lugnet resources to have it. There are two constantly recurring shouting matches: - Scott vs (...) (24 years ago, 18-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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