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In lugnet.admin.general, Todd Lehman writes: <snip> (...) You're technically correct. Leaving off a trailing slash is technically "wrong" syntax. But before we condemn servers for automatically adding it back in and doing what the user expects (...) (24 years ago, 13-Jun-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) That's one theory. There are others. I'm sure a libertarian realises that a given system admin can choose how to admin his own system. eric (24 years ago, 13-Jun-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) either, (...) Sure he does. 'Course, if that given system administrator attention to a level of technical detail that almost no other system around insists on, I'd say that system administrator is more interested in being arrogantly correct (...) (24 years ago, 13-Jun-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Yes, but that's a rather extreme example, don't you think? I don't think the two situations equate at all. It's nto as if users are finding themselves unable to find the discussion groups or anything. eric (24 years ago, 13-Jun-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) No, I don't think it is extreme. In fact, I think it might just be applicable to LUGNET in some way, given the fact that many of the set listing pages have affiliate links on them to eToys (and aren't there some pages with links containing (...) (24 years ago, 13-Jun-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Yes, and I'm sure the lost revenue from people who are trying to open a browser and point to Lugnet to find a set (without using the search feature, mind you) and follow that link through to eToys to buy the item, adds up toa staggering (...) (24 years ago, 13-Jun-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I'm of two minds on this. :) It's not so bad when a server adds a trailing slash when someone types a URL in wrong by hand (like something they saw printed wrong on purpose in a print advertisement), but when a server allows _written_ URLs (...) (24 years ago, 13-Jun-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) If I were paying for a website to be designed for me for a commercial purpose, I'd want it designed to maximise the ease of use and to make any user feel comfortable - I doubt this would include lecturing users on web use. Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 13-Jun-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I think trailing slashes should be optional by specification. Even if they are not optional in the spec, it is optional in the De Facto spec given the existing base of installed servers that handle it gracefully (to the end user). It would be (...) (24 years ago, 13-Jun-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) It's not that, Mike, it's that /castle is actually a valid URL of a valid webpage (it just happens to be empty). When I view that, it shows me a button which says "Start This Page" and I could click that and type in content onto that page if I (...) (24 years ago, 13-Jun-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Do you mean that if a browser requested some page /foo/bar which didn't exist, but a page /foo/bar/ existed, that it would be nice if the server output the content of /foo/bar/ when it was requested to serve /foo/bar ? If so, wouldn't that (...) (24 years ago, 13-Jun-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) wouldn't (...) /foo/bar/ (...) Optionally yes. The admin could choose the least expensive mode to operate in, redirect or rewrite (probably redirect now that you mention it). KL (24 years ago, 13-Jun-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Ah, that makes sense. Really, in order for the proposed ("/foo/bar" exactly equals "/foo/bar/") scheme to work, there needs to be _no_ default index.html file. Or rather, directory index files need to be special in some way. (Just like you'd (...) (24 years ago, 13-Jun-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Oh goody, the xoom factor... What is really needed is a protocol to inform the owner of the referring page that they have a bad link. (24 years ago, 13-Jun-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) What does Xoom do? (...) That would be awesome!!! --Todd (24 years ago, 13-Jun-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Isn't it possible for the server to generate a /foo/bar page when its requested, and see that /foo/bar/ exists, then auto-redirect the user to /foo/bar/, therefore evading this problem? -Tim (24 years ago, 13-Jun-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) You mean the homepage isn't static? *duck* Don't get me started on that :) KL (24 years ago, 13-Jun-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Without a doubt! And the market will pass judgement on whether he's made a good choice about whether to be correct, or forgiving of errors. Assuming he doesn't have such a first mover advantage that there aren't viable alternatives handy, that (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jun-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) OK, it's now fixed. It wasn't as easy as I'd hoped, but what I kluged up is plenty safe. Now, if you now type in the URL without the trailing slash: (URL) will silently auto-forward you to the correct URL: (URL) for if you type it in wrong by (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Thanks for fixing this, Todd. One annoyance in Internet Explorer is that the history captured in the Address text box does not keep the trailing slash. So, even if I typed the slash by hand once, if I use the down-arrow to save typing and go to the (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Todd & All, I was looking into doing some things that LUGNET had to offe,r but I can't seem to remember how to get / change my password to LUGNET. I am a member, so what do I need to do? Any help is greatly appreciated! :) Scott #227! S. -- (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) (URL) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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odd & All, (...) do you get your original password at? If I have it, I don't know of it. That is my stumbling block! Scott S. -- (...) ***...*** Please visit (URL) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I wonder if this was the IE trailing-/ issue that ++Lar was referring to last week. (...) It's too bad it was there in the first place, but I'm glad to hear it's no longer an issue for you. --Todd (23 years ago, 31-Jan-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Yes. ++Lar (23 years ago, 31-Jan-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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