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| | | "Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:Fqny47.CtG@lugnet.com... (...) conversation (...) to (...) not (...) Todd I think, as you run LUGNET, you are free to take money from more or less however you wish - and do with it as you see (...) (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | Re: neither sponsored nor endorsed by the LEGO Company? (was : Re: an update -- and an apology) —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | I missed this - and only just found it by chance : (URL) think you may need to update the Homepage - either by removing the misleading text, or by clarifying the matter. I think the latter would me more appropriate. Scott A I hate replying to my own (...) (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | Re: neither sponsored nor endorsed by the LEGO Company? (was : Re: an update -- and an apology) —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | | | | (...) Scott, Why do you think this necessary? From what I read of Todd's letter to Brad it seems to me the gift was accepted graciously but with the knowledge that it did not constitute sponsorship or any control over LUGNET itself. If thats the (...) (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: neither sponsored nor endorsed by the LEGO Company? (was : Re: an update -- and an apology) —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | | | | (...) From : 1. The American Heritage® Dictionary 2. Cambridge International Dictionary of English Sponsor: 1 One that finances a project or an event carried out by another person or group, especially a business enterprise that pays for radio or (...) (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: neither sponsored nor endorsed by the LEGO Company? (was : Re: an update -- and an apology) —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | | | | | I think I agree with Scott. It's not that I think LUGnet's integrity has been compromised (or anything even close to that), but given the situation I think the disclaimer is inaccurate through omission. [Followup-To .admin.general] (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: neither sponsored nor endorsed by the LEGO Company? (was : Re: an update -- and an apology) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Matt, are you giving legal advice? :-) Note that the disclaimer is a legal statement to protect LEGO just as much as to protect us (as are all disclaimers on unofficial LEGO fansites). The legal definition of words aren't necessarily the same (...) (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: neither sponsored nor endorsed by the LEGO Company? (was : Re: an update -- and an apology) —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) *laugh* I hope not! (...) Fair enough. (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: neither sponsored nor endorsed by the LEGO Company? (was : Re: an update -- and an apology) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) OK, first step -- Brad's donation is now listed here: (URL) no other financial contributions or donations from LEGO have been received or (to our knowledge) sent. --Todd (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: neither sponsored nor endorsed by the LEGO Company? (was : Re: an update -- and an apology) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) OK, second step -- the notice on the homepage has been changed from: Welcome to the international fan-created LEGO® Users Group Network! This is a place for LEGO® fans of all ages to find information, meet one another, and share ideas. As an (...) (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: neither sponsored nor endorsed by the LEGO Company? (was : Re: an update -- and an apology) —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) Icky for sure. Your gonna need a whole separate page just for the disclaimer if this keeps up :-). Gotta do whatcha Gotta do I suppose. Eric Kingsley The New England LEGO Users Group (URL) my Creations at: (URL) (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: neither sponsored nor endorsed by the LEGO Company? (was : Re: an update -- and an apology) —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Why can't you just have: Welcome to the international fan-created LEGO® Users Group Network! This is a place for LEGO® fans of all ages to find information, meet one another, and share ideas. For a list of benifactors see www.blah At www.blah (...) (25 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: neither sponsored nor endorsed by the LEGO Company? (was : Re: an update -- and an apology) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | (...) That's absolutely correct, Eric. In addition, the amount of the donation ($5,000 USD) is so tiny that it could not even remotely be thought of as sponsorship or financial support unless LEGO sends these sorts of things often and regularly, (...) (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: neither sponsored nor endorsed by the LEGO Company? (was : Re: an update -- and an apology) —Kevin Loch
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| | | | | | | | (...) Todd is right IMO. "Sponsorship" in the disclaimer means a formal contractual relationship, and usually accompanies significant financial support. Since that is not the case here, the traditional disclaimer is appropriate (and in fact still (...) (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: neither sponsored nor endorsed by the LEGO Company? (was : Re: an update -- and an apology) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | | (...) On the contrary, we're very pleased to have received it! In fact, we thanked Brad on the phone a few days earlier when he mentioned it prior to sending it. (...) That part wasn't 100% clear. Here is an excerpt of the letter (I hope Brad (...) (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: neither sponsored nor endorsed by the LEGO Company? (was : Re: an update -- and an apology) —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | | | Kevin Loch <kloch@opnsys.com> wrote in message news:Fu03yK.IxJ@lugnet.com... (...) could (...) unless (...) "usually " "significant" To very vague words. To somebody who is new to LUGNet or not aware of this thread, the welcome could be argued as (...) (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | Re: neither sponsored nor endorsed by the LEGO Company? (was : Re: an update -- and an apology) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | (...) shortly after I posted my reply...? (...) I don't see any misleading text there (LEGO still does not officially support or endorse LUGNET), but it can't hurt to add some sort of modifying statement after the legal disclaimer (perhaps a link to (...) (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | | Re: neither sponsored nor endorsed by the LEGO Company? (was : Re: an update -- and an apology) —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:Fu007I.37x@lugnet.com... (...) to) (...) No mystery - I did not like the tone of it. I thought there may have started some sort of angry debate - so to be on the safe side I scrubbed it. (...) (...) (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | Re: neither sponsored nor endorsed by the LEGO Company? (was : Re: an update -- and an apology) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | (...) We hope to change the text on the homepage as soon as we have more information from Brad and his counsel/attorney(s) about exactly what the donation means in his mind. His letter which accompanied the donation mentioned that it was "made with (...) (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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