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Re: neither sponsored nor endorsed by the LEGO Company? (was : Re: an update -- and an apology)
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Wed, 3 May 2000 19:16:50 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, Matthew Miller writes:
I think I agree with Scott. It's not that I think LUGnet's integrity has
been compromised (or anything even close to that), but given the situation I
think the disclaimer is inaccurate through omission.

Matt, are you giving legal advice?  :-)

Note that the disclaimer is a legal statement to protect LEGO just as much
as to protect us (as are all disclaimers on unofficial LEGO fansites).  The
legal definition of words aren't necessarily the same as Webster's definition.
For example, Black's Law Dictionary[1] defines "sponsor" (the noun form) as:

   sponsor.  1. One who acts as a surety for another.  2. A legislator who
      proposes a bill.  3. {Civil Law} One who voluntarily intervenes for
      another without being requested to do so.

   surety (shuur[-&]-tee).  1. A person who is primarily liable for the
      payment of another's debt or the performance of another's obligation.
      Although a surety is similar to an insurer, one important difference
      is that a surety often receives no compensation for assuming liability.
      A surety differs from a a guarantor, who is liable to the creditor only
      if the debtor does not meet the duties owed to the creditor; the surety
      is directly liable.

In other words, we really need to have some sort of formal statement from
LEGO attorneys before we dare change any of the legal disclaimers on the
homepage.  However, I think we could safely add a modifier after it which
points to more information, including details of the donation.

--Todd

p.s.  I am not a lawyer.


[1] Black's Law Dictionary®, Seventh Edition, 1999, West Group



Message has 3 Replies:
  Re: neither sponsored nor endorsed by the LEGO Company? (was : Re: an update -- and an apology)
 
(...) *laugh* I hope not! (...) Fair enough. (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
  (canceled)
 
  Re: neither sponsored nor endorsed by the LEGO Company? (was : Re: an update -- and an apology)
 
(...) OK, first step -- Brad's donation is now listed here: (URL) no other financial contributions or donations from LEGO have been received or (to our knowledge) sent. --Todd (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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  Re: neither sponsored nor endorsed by the LEGO Company? (was : Re: an update -- and an apology)
 
I think I agree with Scott. It's not that I think LUGnet's integrity has been compromised (or anything even close to that), but given the situation I think the disclaimer is inaccurate through omission. [Followup-To .admin.general] (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.dear-lego)  

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