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Re: Hide .off-topic & .admin posts from top page? (was: Re: Reminder: the .off-topic.* groups ARE for off-topic topics)
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Thu, 9 Mar 2000 07:01:21 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, Todd Lehman writes:
> In lugnet.admin.general, Dan Boger writes:
> > In lugnet.admin.general, Todd Lehman writes:
> > > Perhaps, until a better filtering solution can be implemented, these two
> > > parts of the ng hierarchy ought not to be included in the top-level • summary
> > > at the homepage afterall.  There's no great way to tell how many people • are
> > > adversely affected by the noise, but my gut tells me that tucking these • away
> > > would be a noticable improvement.
> > 
> > won't this break the rule of no-special-cases though?
> 
> Yes, it would break that rule.  :-(
> 
> However...
> 
> Even though consistency in structure is good from both a mathgeek-sysarch's
> and an end-user's point of view, I think it's ultimately more important to
> serve the empirical needs of the end-users above most else.  That is, users
> are more important than 100.00% consistency.  The consistency should be there
> to help users, but when it starts getting in the way, the consistency should
> be relaxed somewhat.  And I think the current 100.00% consistency -is- getting
> in the way here.
> 
> Thus, the negatives arising from a tiny bit of inconsistency (special cases)
> are, in this case, likely to be much outweighed by the positives.
> 
> 
> > Unless there's already a mechanism build in for it...?
> 
> Not yet, no.
> 
> --Todd

Well, ultimately it's your site, Todd, and I think the T&C's you've set down
are entirely fair and reasonable. If you want to change something, far be it
for us to complain. After all, moving .off-topic from the front page is very
different from "thou shalt not have religious discussion in .off-topic".

As one who is contributing to this non-LEGO noise at the present I don't
really mind where .off-topic resides, as long as I can still get to it (I tend
to read from the web interface). It's probably not a bad idea for the more
recognisably controversial groups to be shifted to prevent deterring newcomers.


Pete Callaway (being flexible for a change)



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  Re: Hide .off-topic & .admin posts from top page? (was: Re: Reminder: the .off-topic.* groups ARE for off-topic topics)
 
(...) "Recognisably controversial" -- that's an interesting (and helpful) choice of words. By that metric, I think there are actually 3 areas which could end up deterring newcomers: 1) .off-topic.* 2) .admin.* 3) .market.auction (Not 100% sure about (...) (27 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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(...) Yes, it would break that rule. :-( However... Even though consistency in structure is good from both a mathgeek-sysarch's and an end-user's point of view, I think it's ultimately more important to serve the empirical needs of the end-users (...) (27 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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