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(...) This is great input, Mike! (...) Would you like it if there were alternative views such as this?-- : | \-- aquatic (33% sub-set of terra-world) | |-- under-water (100% sub-set of water) | | | |-- Aquazone (100% sub-set of under-water) | | | (...) (26 years ago, 8-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.database)
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(...) Other here includes historical time period (past, present, future) and/or maybe, a measure of probability/realism? What I am getting at is that Pirates is in the past, and fairly "real" (1). Some castle is in the past and "real", (Dark forest) (...) (26 years ago, 8-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.database)
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(...) Let's take a 90-degree turn and explore that more... What are all the possible dimensional attributes of sets and/or themes? - subject matter . type of model (plane, train, automobile, etc.) . scale (minifig, maxifig, microfig, etc.) . (...) (26 years ago, 8-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.database)
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(...) Was it this set? (URL) (26 years ago, 8-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.database)
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(...) Wow! -- how many kids get to have that kind of a LEGO-geek discussion with their dad? :) Your categorizations above sound a lot better than colors! :) (...) I'm probably using the wrong terminology -- This whole OO-data-modeling thing is still (...) (26 years ago, 8-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.database)
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(...) For sure, yes! -- 2188 being available only on ferries certainly counts! :) But they're two different aspects of the word "ferry" -- one is a set which represents a model of a ferry, the other is a set which has nothing to do with ferries but (...) (26 years ago, 8-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.database)
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I'm not with that. Why?...Read below, only one example. The sets that we know and "cotegorize" as technic sets, were not all "Technic" from the beginning. Although they were apperantly looking like the ones today, those boxes released before 1982 (...) (26 years ago, 7-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.database)
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...<snip>... (...) I think another extremely diverse set is the famous Explorien/UFO Hovertron thingy. Besides being discussed if it is a UFO set or not, It has also three set numbers: 6800 (the one released in Turkey as one of the little boxed sets (...) (26 years ago, 7-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.database)
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(...) This may seem an odd question, but is this topic meaning to discuss how the database will be organized at a data level, or at an interface level? If the former, this is probably irrelevant to the vast mojority here, so I'm assuming the later. (...) (26 years ago, 7-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.database)
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A lot of what you guys are talking about goes right over my head as I'm not as familiar with set numbers vs. content as you all seem to be, but I've got some input "from a lowly user": I am an avid boater and SCUBA diver, I also like LEGO and (...) (26 years ago, 7-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.database)
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There is one other set that breaks the rules, the Soccer Stadium starter pack from England, which had a 5 digit number. I still have the invoice somewhere which shows this number, but am currently unable to find it. All of the other sets had had the (...) (26 years ago, 7-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.database)
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On Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:25:30 GMT, Todd Lehman uttered the following profundities... (...) Adventurers being the main theme, Desert Adventures as the 1st, Jungle Adventures as the 2nd. (...) All of the pre-ninja castle sets are Euro-centric type (...) (26 years ago, 7-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.database)
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(...) This is an attribute of availability, just as (US only), or (Shell Stations in Holland) or (Worldwide) are. It has nothing to do with the subject matter of the model. So I would not like to see the categorization muddied up with it. I suspect (...) (26 years ago, 7-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.database)
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(...) But given that 2188 is available only on ferries, doesn't that count for something? Its not a ferry per se, but in some way it is related to 'ferry', taking 'ferry' to be a generic term for a group of co-promoting companies. (...) To my mind, (...) (26 years ago, 7-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.database)
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(...) Right -- but fuzzy categories don't necessarily have to add up to 100%. Something like the 1548 Ferry would probably go in as 100% "Stena Line", 100% "ferry" (which could be a sub-category of something associating it with boats), and some (...) (26 years ago, 7-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.database)
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(...) :-) (...) I know you said you made this up for the sake of an example, but Nik and I got in a row about this last night so I thought I'd share. I have to credit him for making me scan all the sets and their figs. There don't actually seem to (...) (26 years ago, 7-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.database)
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(...) The minifigures are different as well - more in touch with the new style of faces. (...) If someone had the whole line of exploriens and U.F.O's built and had them side by side and then gave someone this set to put into one or the other, I (...) (26 years ago, 7-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.database)
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Todd Lehman wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> Well, the only question I have a strong opinion on is whether Boats are a part of Town. I am convinced that Lego originally separated Boats from the rest of their product line because the Boats used extremely (...) (26 years ago, 7-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.database)
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Some initial thoughts in promotional sets in my lunchbreak... Categorising promotional sets will as you suggest be frought with difficulties. That's why I went for the 'keyword' method of categorising them in my database, which can be a type of set (...) (26 years ago, 7-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.database)
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[Crossposted to lugnet.admin.database & lugnet.general, with followups set to lugnet.admin.database] * Is LEGO set 1843 (a '96 Space/Castle value pack) actually a value pack containing two sets? Or is it one set with instructions to build two (...) (26 years ago, 7-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.database, lugnet.general)
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