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		Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
(...) First of all, we Merkans don't take kindly to that Frenchy "u" in color. And we don't want no horse doovers, neither. Secondly, I can't see air, but I can discern the effect of air upon objects. Therefore I am able to draw conclusions about (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
(...) *snip* (...) Nice! I haven't heard that joke in quite a while, and it always gives me a giggle. Dave! (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
(...) Hmm, C.S. Friedman was born in '57, so she's out. But don't let that stop you from reading her work. (...) And J. Gregory Keyes (now going by Greg Keyes), while an excellent fantasy author, has only written sci-fi for SW:NJO and B5 thus far. (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
(...) He's also written/co-written a couple of novels. The only one I've read to date was Neverwhere (also a TV miniseries in the UK), but. (...) He also drove a lot of adults away from reading the Star Wars novels, largely as a result of the two (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
(...) Whoops, forgot to complete that thought. ...but it didn't really strike me as a great example of his work. The ending kinda rolls out in a largely predictable manner. I'd say the most compelling reason to read it is the unusual array of (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Help me with the math
(...) Look up the quote chain and you'll see I established "immenent use of WoMD". Basically, you are agreeing with me. All you did is weasel in the words "bad man". (...) You accept that lame explanation? You are satisfied with that? A shrug of the (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Help me with the math
(...) I don't agree. He sold the war on the premise that SH was a bad man who possessed WMDs and wouldn't think twice about making those weapons available to our enemies. I never bought the direct threat idea-- just the aid and abett idea. After (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Help me with the math
(...) That would be included in what I said. However, there are no WoMD and no Al Qaeda connections. Bush can believe what he wants, but I am saying he should be held accountable for his mistakes. (...) He just released a new claim that America is (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
You know, for a time now I have wanted this whole thing to go away and stop appearing on the main news page, for you see, I have a terrible weakness: a great fascination in philosophy. So, this whole discussion was honey to me and I was having a (...) (20 years ago, 18-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
(...) That's actually from ST6: The Undiscovered Country, which I just recently caught on TV. I can't remember which scene specifically it's from, but I think it was the dinner shared by the Enterprise crew and the Klingons. (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
(...) Correct! The line came from the daughter of the Klingon Chancellor in resonse to Chekov's ham-handed attempt at diplomacy. Dave! (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Brickshelf gallery categories
(...) Just thought I'd bump this again (flogging a dead horse springs to mind!) another example, picked at random, (URL) . Nice models, but of a CAR, so why is the folder in the new Trains folder? Tim (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.general)

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		Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
(...) Well, in his defense, he was liberally lubricated with a certain illegal Romulan paint-stripper. That stuff can't be good for your brain cells, especially not after you've had some vile space-bug in there chewing on the wiring. (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Help me with the math
(...) I have some comment on the tip of my tongue about what you could be eating in the meantime, but somehow, (hint, it involves the President's last name) I'm not sure I can say that on Lugnet. _ :-0 - Is it still missing, by the way? (Munch's The (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
(...) So the whole can be completely, thoroughly, logically, scientifically explained by the sum of the parts? As in there's no magic at all? If there are systems and components we don't understand scientifically today, there will be a time in the (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
(...) I see that as analogous to believing in an omnipotent God that has all the answers, and decides not to tell you them all just yet. (...) The operative word being "may". I don't happen to believe that everything is or will necessarily be (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: “family-safe” ? (Re: Lavender Brick Society)
(...) Nope, I'm dead-on correct. (...) Again, nope. I described you to a tee. I'm not telling anyone they ought to cancel their posts like you have. I am for the debate if you've read these threads. I'm not in favor of censoring the discussion. (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
(...) Evidence and proof are aspects of science. How can one use 'evidence' to show 'something outside of science'? How can one use 'proofs', which support scientific evidence, to 'prove' something unprovable? I agree that we must not stop pursuing (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
(...) Also in Babylon 5 with the Technomages. :) Love that JMS... So my friend and I were talking the other day about Clarke, Asimov, Chalker, Heinlen, etc... Can anyone name a really good science-fiction author that was born, say, after 1960? I (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
(...) Evidence is scientific. This is much like talking about colours to a person who has been blind their entire lives--you can get across the 'concept' of colours by talking about blue is running water, and red is heat or flame ('cause a blind (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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