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| Hi friends, this really has been a most interesting thread about a theme that periodically reappears. I think there are a few things to underline. First of all, there is the idea of a contest that only makes sense, if restricting rules are set up to (...) (20 years ago, 12-Mar-05, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | Re: FLL not allowing NQC; Mindscript is allowed
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| not to belabor this issue, but... At first glance, Mindscript seems rather NQC-ish. How hard would it be to write a compiler for NQC-->MindScript? Alternatively, couldn't one rather easily take the output bytecodes, and write a program to parse them (...) (20 years ago, 12-Mar-05, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | Re: FLL not allowing NQC; Mindscript is allowed
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| (...) I don't follow your logic. Are you saying that any change to the rules to allow non-LEGO programming environments that target the standard LEGO firmware (including ones that they encourage people to use by selling tutorials for them on their (...) (20 years ago, 10-Mar-05, to lugnet.robotics)
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| Sei esperto di LEGO® MINDSTORMS® NXT? Vuoi far parte del nostro forum ristretto, la MINDSTORMS Community Partners, dove ti coinvolgiamo nello sviluppo e nel test di nuove idee, prototipi, prodotti e discutere del software e hardware relativi? Invia (...) (15 years ago, 1-Jul-09, to lugnet.org.it.itlug)
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| | Re: FLL not allowing NQC; Mindscript is allowed
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| (...) Explain to me how good programming compensates for a robot that can't travel straight or that has no mechanical means for completing the mission objectives? If by good programming you mean that the program checks sensors to adjust the (...) (20 years ago, 10-Mar-05, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | Re: FLL not allowing NQC; Mindscript is allowed
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| (...) Probably nothing. There certainly are things you can do in MindScript that you couldn't do in NQC until recently. You couldn't use pointers, for example. But I don't think that is what Steve Baker is arguing. He's arguing that his son's (...) (20 years ago, 10-Mar-05, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | Re: FLL not allowing NQC; Mindscript is allowed
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| If one allows things that are not produced or distributed by lego, then why can't one use non-official sensors? Why can't one drop the entire default firmware? Heck, why does a person even have to use the RCX in the first place and not a more robust (...) (20 years ago, 9-Mar-05, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | Re: FLL not allowing NQC; Mindscript is allowed
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| (...) The difference is a really bright line. All of the examples you quote are to do with non-standard things ending up inside the robot. NQC DOESN'T end up inside the robot. Using NQC instead of RIS is no different from using a pocketknife to (...) (20 years ago, 10-Mar-05, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | Re: FLL not allowing NQC; Mindscript is allowed
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| (...) Is there a good reason to allow MindScript and not NQC? No. With MindScript and LASM you can do anything you can do with NQC. But there are *very* few experienced MindScript programmers out there to teach the language to FLL team members. (...) (20 years ago, 9-Mar-05, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | Re: FLL not allowing NQC
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| John, I'm involved in FLL up here in Minnesota. For the last couple of years we have been running a High School FLL pilot program. The high school kids run the same competition as the younger kids, but they have fewer restrictions. You can have 2 (...) (20 years ago, 9-Mar-05, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | Re: RIS 2.0 Problems - Low Level Languages?
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| (...) Or if you really wanna reduce the memory use, compile your program as firmware that you can send using firmdl3 (like the BrickOS kernel itself, or LDCC). Although I must admit that BrickOS, if you use the kernel compile defines, can be made (...) (20 years ago, 8-Mar-05, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | Re: RIS 2.0 Problems
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| (...) The flaw in this sort of logic is the assumption that more productive programming leads to a more likely to win FLL robot. This is definitely not true. The far more likely scenario is this: experienced robot designer leads to more likely to (...) (20 years ago, 9-Mar-05, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | Re: RIS 2.0 Problems - Low Level Languages?
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| (...) Reminds me of BBC micros, where the most useful BASIC command was the open square bracket to go into assembler! Do you have facilities to program the RCX in assembler or hex? I'm interested in a lower level language so that I don't have to (...) (20 years ago, 7-Mar-05, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | Re: RIS 2.0 Problems
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| (...) Sitting back watching, I have to delurk and make the point that in ROBOLAB 2.5.4 there is a new function called "Upload RCX Code". With this function you can download someones "spagetti" code to an RCX and then upload it back to your computer (...) (20 years ago, 8-Mar-05, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | Re: RIS 2.0 Problems
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| I think that something might be overlooked here? To ensure that all contestants are playing on a level field, it is necessary to ensure they have the same elements for building their competition systems. To do this, it necessarily requires that (...) (20 years ago, 6-Mar-05, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | Re: Swan Firmware
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| (...) The Swan firmware is Dick Swan's replacement firmware which is compatible with the standard LEGO firmware (firm0328.lgo). The Swan firmware is available at the link mentioned in this post: (URL) use swan.nqh (available in the zip file (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jan-05, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
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