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12:49 pm Pacific time
The Pacific Northwest Lego Train Club has just broken the Guiness Record for
the longest LEGO train Layout - 3232 feet, or 7752 pieces of track crossed.
Check out the live cam at www.pnltc.org
Ben Fleskes
PNLTC
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Revised estimate now in. Corrected length is actually 3343 feet.
Ben Fleskes
PNLTC
In lugnet.trains, David VinZant writes:
> 12:49 pm Pacific time
>
> The Pacific Northwest Lego Train Club has just broken the Guiness Record for
> the longest LEGO train Layout - 3232 feet, or 7752 pieces of track crossed.
>
> Check out the live cam at www.pnltc.org
>
> Ben Fleskes
> PNLTC
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Waahoo!! Congrats to you all !!
John
In lugnet.trains, David VinZant writes:
> 12:49 pm Pacific time
>
> The Pacific Northwest Lego Train Club has just broken the Guiness Record for
> the longest LEGO train Layout - 3232 feet, or 7752 pieces of track crossed.
>
> Check out the live cam at www.pnltc.org
>
> Ben Fleskes
> PNLTC
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In lugnet.trains, David VinZant writes:
>
> Revised estimate now in. Corrected length is actually 3343 feet.
>
> Ben Fleskes
> PNLTC
Well done everyone - just curious about the actual continuous train run Ben -
what was the length of the longest 'loop'?
Jon
> In lugnet.trains, David VinZant writes:
> > 12:49 pm Pacific time
> >
> > The Pacific Northwest Lego Train Club has just broken the Guiness Record for
> > the longest LEGO train Layout - 3232 feet, or 7752 pieces of track crossed.
> >
> > Check out the live cam at www.pnltc.org
> >
> > Ben Fleskes
> > PNLTC
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In lugnet.trains, David VinZant writes:
> 12:49 pm Pacific time
>
> The Pacific Northwest Lego Train Club has just broken the Guiness Record for
> the longest LEGO train Layout - 3232 feet, or 7752 pieces of track crossed.
>
> Check out the live cam at www.pnltc.org
>
> Ben Fleskes
> PNLTC
Congratulations on the record and surviving the /. effect!
Thanks to everyone that uploaded all the great pictures of the event.
Who made the downtown buildings? They appear to be sub-minifig scale, but
they are very, very nice.
KL
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In lugnet.trains, David VinZant writes:
> 12:49 pm Pacific time
>
> The Pacific Northwest Lego Train Club has just broken the Guiness Record for
> the longest LEGO train Layout - 3232 feet, or 7752 pieces of track crossed.
>
> Check out the live cam at www.pnltc.org
>
> Ben Fleskes
> PNLTC
Congrats from the FGLTC!
Ben
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Congratulations with the record! Also congratulations with the amount of
money and work you have put into it!
Let get to it: are there some better pictures of these churches?
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=11405
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=11416
Rgds
Sonnich
----- Original Message -----
From: David VinZant <legotrains@yahoo.com>
To: <lugnet.trains@lugnet.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 9:50 PM
Subject: PNLTC breaks guiness record!
> 12:49 pm Pacific time
>
> The Pacific Northwest Lego Train Club has just broken the Guiness Record for
> the longest LEGO train Layout - 3232 feet, or 7752 pieces of track crossed.
>
> Check out the live cam at www.pnltc.org
>
> Ben Fleskes
> PNLTC
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In lugnet.trains, Sonnich Jensen writes:
> Congratulations with the record! Also congratulations with the amount of
> money and work you have put into it!
Thank you, the project was a lot of fun and yes, a whole lot of work (the
money part we try to ignore :-).
>
> Let get to it: are there some better pictures of these churches?
I'll see if I have some pics of these, if not from this show then a previous
show.
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=11405
This one is Jon Rasmussen's
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=11416
And this on is Dan Parker's (I think).
Tom
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In lugnet.trains, Jonathan Reynolds writes:
> In lugnet.trains, David VinZant writes:
> >
> > Revised estimate now in. Corrected length is actually 3343 feet.
> >
> > Ben Fleskes
> > PNLTC
>
> Well done everyone - just curious about the actual continuous train run Ben -
> what was the length of the longest 'loop'?
>
> Jon
Actually that is it, 3343 feet of one continuous run, after which we switched
(moved track around) over to about 28 separate lines, now that looked cool
having that many trains running a once. :-) I think the longest loop at that
point was about 250 feet.
Tom
PNLTC
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Congratulations from ItLUG!
Mario Ferrari
http://www.itlug.org
David VinZant <legotrains@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 12:49 pm Pacific time
>
> The Pacific Northwest Lego Train Club has just broken the Guiness Record for
> the longest LEGO train Layout - 3232 feet, or 7752 pieces of track crossed.
>
> Check out the live cam at www.pnltc.org
>
> Ben Fleskes
> PNLTC
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In lugnet.trains, Thomas P. Rafert writes:
> In lugnet.trains, Kevin Loch writes:
> For more info on Kim Toll's buildings visit his site
> at: http://www.easystreet.com/~kjmrr/
Good hint! I havn't been on that site since quite a long time...
>
> Well that's a bunch of them, I'll try for more if anyone would like.
> If I didn't get some right I'm sure someone will correct me. :-)
My favorite buildings have been the white grain silos and especially the
palace with its great details and lots of cool ideas of unconventional use of
bricks.
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=11381
Who has built it?
Regards,
Ben
BTW: What has actually been the length of the big Snap bridge? I have been in
fear it might have been longer than my big bridge of 4.10 meters (32 sections
of straight track)....
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In lugnet.trains, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
> My favorite buildings have been the white grain silos
The silos belong to Matt Chiles.
> and especially the
> palace with its great details and lots of cool ideas of unconventional use of
> bricks.
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=11381
>
> Who has built it?
Ah yes, the Palace belongs to Dan Parker. I know I've got more photos of that
from the show and also earlier when he brought it over to my house.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ben
>
>
> BTW: What has actually been the length of the big Snap bridge? I have been in
> fear it might have been longer than my big bridge of 4.10 meters (32 sections
> of straight track)....
Oh yes Ben, I remember your bridge. This snap bridge was built by Wayne
Hussey, and the total length is 22 feet and the length of the span is 16 feet 3
inches.
For the awhile my bridge of 5 feet was the longest in the club but then sitting
next to his, well...
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=11631
mine is that little yellow one on the end. :-)
Tom
PNLTC
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In lugnet.trains, David VinZant writes:
> 12:49 pm Pacific time
>
> The Pacific Northwest Lego Train Club has just broken the Guiness Record for
> the longest LEGO train Layout - 3232 feet, or 7752 pieces of track crossed.
>
> Check out the live cam at www.pnltc.org
>
> Ben Fleskes
> PNLTC
What did you use to power the track? Experience shows that a standard
LEGO train regulator wouldn't do the job. How does that affect the
record qualifications?
KL
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In lugnet.trains, David VinZant writes:
> 12:49 pm Pacific time
>
> The Pacific Northwest Lego Train Club has just broken the Guiness Record for
> the longest LEGO train Layout - 3232 feet, or 7752 pieces of track crossed.
>
> Check out the live cam at www.pnltc.org
>
> Ben Fleskes
> PNLTC
I must know - how long did it take for a train to complete a single circuit??
Well done!!
JohnG, GMLTC
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In lugnet.trains, John Gerlach writes:
> In lugnet.trains, David VinZant writes:
> > 12:49 pm Pacific time
> >
> > The Pacific Northwest Lego Train Club has just broken the Guiness Record for
> > the longest LEGO train Layout - 3232 feet, or 7752 pieces of track crossed.
> >
> > Check out the live cam at www.pnltc.org
> >
> > Ben Fleskes
> > PNLTC
>
> I must know - how long did it take for a train to complete a single circuit??
>
> Well done!!
>
> JohnG, GMLTC
John
It took roughly 30 minutes to run the ~3343 feet of the layout. We maintained a
fairly regular speed thru that - hit a few slow spots when we slowed to a
crawl. I think we had 6 controllers - each connected to 2-3 track locations -
and had a coordinator cue the folks working each controller.
Maybe someone else timed it more exactly or logged the precise connections.
- Gary Gerdes
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In lugnet.trains, David VinZant writes:
> 12:49 pm Pacific time
>
> The Pacific Northwest Lego Train Club has just broken the Guiness Record for
> the longest LEGO train Layout - 3232 feet, or 7752 pieces of track crossed.
John Gerlach wants to see video!
OK, I can help. I have just over two hours, including the duration of
the longest layout, and longest train attempts. It's on a hi-8 master.
I'm planning to make a VHS copy to send to Dan Parker for passing around
to the members up there. I can make one for the GMLTC as well (Hi-8 or
VHS?) The 'current time' was put on the tape. Most of the spectacular
crashes took place Sunday, so I may need to cut something from Friday or
Saturday to get it all on one 2-hour tape (to keep the image quality high).
Before I get swamped with requests for personal copies, I'll post
here that I'm willing to work on a club copy for the clubs that are
currently established. But I'm asking that the clubs work it out
amongnst their group who will be the single contact that gets the
tape, so I don't have to moderate that part.
I don't know how much the media and mailing costs may work out to.
I'll inform the club contacts who email me after I get the PNLTC copy
in the mail.
Best regards,
-Z- frenezulo@baylug.org
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In lugnet.trains, David K. Z. Harris writes:
> In lugnet.trains, David VinZant writes:
> > 12:49 pm Pacific time
> >
> > The Pacific Northwest Lego Train Club has just broken the Guiness Record for
> > the longest LEGO train Layout - 3232 feet, or 7752 pieces of track crossed.
>
> John Gerlach wants to see video!
Yes, he does!! <grin>
> Before I get swamped with requests for personal copies, I'll post
> here that I'm willing to work on a club copy for the clubs that are
> currently established. But I'm asking that the clubs work it out
> amongnst their group who will be the single contact that gets the
> tape, so I don't have to moderate that part.
>
> I don't know how much the media and mailing costs may work out to.
> I'll inform the club contacts who email me after I get the PNLTC copy
> in the mail.
>
> Best regards,
>
> -Z- frenezulo@baylug.org
I guess I'll volunteer to be the contact for the GMLTC, since our
designated 'public relations officer' (John Neal) is offline for a few days.
This is going to be great - we'll get most of our club together, bring out the
popcorn, and make it an evening!
JohnG, GMLTC
(lose the '.nospam', or reach me at gmltc_j1 @ yahoo.com )
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In lugnet.trains, Kevin Loch writes:
> What did you use to power the track? Experience shows that a standard
> LEGO train regulator wouldn't do the job. How does that affect the
> record qualifications?
We actually used pure LEGO. There were multiple regulators, each connected to
the track at multiple points. The tricky part is to make sure they are all
set in the same direction and getting the right amount of juice.
--
Tony Hafner
Very new PNLTC member
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> Actually that is it, 3343 feet of one continuous run, after which we switched
> (moved track around) over to about 28 separate lines, now that looked cool
> having that many trains running a once. :-) I think the longest loop at that
> point was about 250 feet.
>
> Tom
> PNLTC
The highest count of moving trains I know of was 32, and that includes 3
monorails, a Duplo train, and a 4.5v train. Unfortunately, the Duplo train
kept stopping every 2 minutes. That's a great design for use at home, but
makes them really awkward to run at shows.
--
Tony Hafner
Very new PNLTC member
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In lugnet.trains, David VinZant writes:
> The Pacific Northwest Lego Train Club has just broken the Guiness
> Record for the longest LEGO train Layout - 3232 feet, or 7752 pieces
> of track crossed.
> Ben Fleskes
> PNLTC
I'm presuming Ben / David means 7752 pieces of track connected?
In lugnet.trains, Tony Hafner writes:
> In lugnet.trains, Kevin Loch writes:
> > What did you use to power the track? Experience shows that a
> > standard LEGO train regulator wouldn't do the job. How does that
> > affect the record qualifications?
>
> We actually used pure LEGO. There were multiple regulators, each
> connected to the track at multiple points. The tricky part is to
> make sure they are all set in the same direction and getting the
> right amount of juice.
I'm very interested in the technical details of this project.
How many motors and how far apart were they spaced? How did you
keep it from pulling off the corners? If the food-court section
was, say, 100', that means the track loops back on itself three
dozen times. Even if a single engine had enough power and traction,
the cars would just pull off on the corners. Did you just set all
the controllers to 1/4 speed or something? Was there a current
meter on the main feed? Did you need multiple circuits? ie. Did
it exceed 10-15 Amps? When you say the record was broken - what
was the old record? Was there one - presumably by TLC - or did
this establish the record for the first time? Are answers to
these and other questions going to be posted on the web-site?
Details man - I need details. :-)
SRC
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In lugnet.trains, Steve Chapple writes:
> In lugnet.trains, David VinZant writes:
> > The Pacific Northwest Lego Train Club has just broken the Guiness
> > Record for the longest LEGO train Layout - 3232 feet, or 7752 pieces
> > of track crossed.
> > Ben Fleskes
> > PNLTC
>
> I'm presuming Ben / David means 7752 pieces of track connected?
Connected and crossed by a train. I think the record requires both that the
track be contiguous and formed into a layout, and that a train of some sort
traverse it.
>
> I'm very interested in the technical details of this project.
> How many motors and how far apart were they spaced?
The train itself I don't think was all that long! 6-8 cars with the "Guinness
World Record" lettering on them, pulled by one of the Erie Lackawanna like
locomotives.
Go to Brickshelf and look, would be my advice.
++Lar
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In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.trains, Steve Chapple writes:
> > In lugnet.trains, David VinZant writes:
> > > The Pacific Northwest Lego Train Club has just broken the Guiness
> > > Record for the longest LEGO train Layout - 3232 feet, or 7752 pieces
> > > of track crossed.
> > I'm very interested in the technical details of this project.
> > How many motors and how far apart were they spaced?
>
> The train itself I don't think was all that long! 6-8 cars with the
> "Guinness World Record" lettering on them, pulled by one of the Erie
> Lackawanna like locomotives.
Ah <light turning on above head> So THAT's why there wasn't much in
the way of engines and cars compared to the amount of track. I had
understood that the object was to make the longest TRAIN, which was
why each club sent a car, and such a large amount of track was needed.
In lugnet.trains, Dan Parker writes:
> ...PNLTC broke the official...Record for Longest LEGO Train Line of
> 545 meters (1788 ft) set in 1992.
By whom? LEGO themselves?
> Clubmembers operated a train over a 3343-foot continuous length of rail...
Over 1000 meters - Wow. How many meters officially?
> ...which took 43 minutes to complete (vs. 18 minutes previously).
The speed of the train would have to be an official constant too, then?
> A secondary record, the Longest Freight Train, was set with 3 locomotives
> pulling 68 cars for 5 complete laps around an approximately 250 foot loop.
This 68 car three engine freight train was more what I was thinking of.
Is the record determined by the number of cars, (can they be any type?)
or by the lenth of the train?
> 8. Longest monorail circuit: 277.5 feet.
How many monorail contributors? I used to have close to that amount of
monorail, but had to sell over half in auctions to raise needed cash. :-(
> If folks are interested, I can paraphrase the original GBWR article which I
> obtained from Denmark (internal company newsletter LEGO REVIEW).
I'm interested - Can the whole article be scaned and posted or something?
SRC
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Clarifying the train, length, configuration, and other details...
track length was 3343 ft, not 3232 as originally posted. This smaller number
was the uncalibrated value from the LEGO odometer. As far as an equivalent
number of official meters, I defer to your official calculator as I didn't
make the conversion. We'll need to review the video but I recall the long run
train was a 4565-styled locomotive pulling 2 boxcars in PNLTC livery. Speed
of the train was not a constant just it rarely is for actual trains (records
are simply how long it takes to get from one place to another).
For the Longest Train record, we ran a loco on point, another buried in the
middle, and a pusher. We restricted running to a plain concentric loop,
naturally. Freightcars were of many standard forms.
Digressing, the 'GBWR'-lettered train was too heavy and had an odd coupling
arrangement. It only ran on a smaller oval when that track wasn't being used
for the main record. Furthermore, it would not have been possible to run the
Ambassador train (or many consists, for that matter) due to mechanical
shortcomings in many of the cars (non-standardization, non-train wheel
mountings, etc.).
[from the 1992 article]TLG received a request from organizers of the annual
activity weekend for youth in Billund run by the College of Further Education,
the Music School, and the Billund Center
WE only used about half of the monorail track we amassed. For some reason, we
either ran out of time, energy, or space. ;)
I'll try to get the '92 article scanned locally.
d
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> > A secondary record, the Longest Freight Train, was set with 3 locomotives
> > pulling 68 cars for 5 complete laps around an approximately 250 foot loop.
>
> This 68 car three engine freight train was more what I was thinking of.
> Is the record determined by the number of cars, (can they be any type?)
> or by the lenth of the train?
At one time, I held this record unoffically, with 92 cars, and ONE engine...if
you dig back you can find ref. to it on .trains
James P
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James,
taking your word for it -- and I do -- I was very surprised that we couldn't
recreate a similar scenario. Question, did you acheive these results on a
straight run or otherwise? Did you run for any appreciable amount of time? I
believe we unofficially ran for 4-5 minutes.
Now that PNLTC has the track, I'd love to set up some 4-500 foot loops and
tinker around with some super-long consists.
d
In lugnet.trains, James Powell writes:
> At one time, I held this record unoffically, with 92 cars, and ONE engine...if
> you dig back you can find ref. to it on .trains
>
> James P
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In lugnet.trains, Dan Parker writes:
> James,
> taking your word for it -- and I do -- I was very surprised that we couldn't
> recreate a similar scenario. Question, did you acheive these results on a
> straight run or otherwise? Did you run for any appreciable amount of time? I
> believe we unofficially ran for 4-5 minutes.
>
> Now that PNLTC has the track, I'd love to set up some 4-500 foot loops and
> tinker around with some super-long consists.
>
> d
I had about 200 pieces of track as the loop (my upper loop), and about 30 bogie
cars, plus the rest 2 axle cars (so, about 240 axles towed)...the train was 5-7
cars short of being connected at both ends :). Loop was just straight and
corner track, no zigzag's. Run time was more limited by my bordom than
anything else, I was mostly doing it to see how much I could start (with as
much as I had behind the engine, it was a struggle to get it to start).
You can have a look at the old thread:
http://news.lugnet.com/trains/?n=3977
James
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