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Subject: 
Ironclad _La Gloire_ virtually complete--mini-page up
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Hi,

_La Gloire_ is now in Phase Nine, meaning it has almost all the bells
and whistles an ironclad might need.  Everything from lifeboat davits
that lower, a complete stern gallery, coal chutes, boiler room, to a
dozen cannon, a fairly complete rig--no brown or black plastic
trapezoidal "ship rig" pieces--and a really nice smokestack with
ventilation ducts, courtesy of many copies of set 7150.  Quigon Effete
(our illustrious captain) is now sailing the high seas for France!

See this wee little ship here:

http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/Gloire.html    (case-sensitive!)

All of these shots are from phase nine.  Earlier phases of construction
are not up yet--but I have photos of almost everything, including the
ductwork, the boiler room, the captain's cabin, and the spacious cargo
hold under the foredeck.  The sailors even have room to sleep...I admit,
they have to sleep under the gun decks and next to the magazines, but if
it's your time to go, it's your time to go.

The very spartan _Gloire_ page will continue to evolve, and there will
be further phases as I reconstruct things and complete the stern section
over the gallery.  Comments welcome!

best

Lindsay


Subject: 
Re: Ironclad _La Gloire_ virtually complete--mini-page up
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Sat, 11 Mar 2000 06:30:03 GMT
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Zowee! That's awesome, Lindsay.

Gotta hand it to you, for a minute there I was considering changing themes to
pirates ;-)

All seriousness aside, that's really beautiful. I love the boat-lowering
feature (I hate technic as is, but I sure do appreciate it when it's used in
m-f models) and the figurine is downright cool. Quigon Effete adds to the
effect (1) and the 'small' ship just helps me realize how enourmous the Gloire
is. The 'approaching' pic shows the Gloire in all it's glory... (1 :-)

Now, if only Todd would patent that 'that's so great' button I could be a
happy person... ;-)

-Shiri

In lugnet.build, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
[snip, leave the best:]
http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/Gloire.html    (case-sensitive!)

(1) couldn't resist that one, now could I? :-) I'm in a punny mood today...


Subject: 
Re: Ironclad 'La Gloire'
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In lugnet.pirates, Richard Parsons writes:
Mr L F Braun wrote
See this wee little ship here:

http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/Gloire.html    (case-sensitive!)

Just glorious.

Glorious says it all!!!

(But now I am going to babble on...)

Excellent work...very inspiring...I love the bow and stern detail.

Those davits are elegant in their simplicity...I  experimented w/ similar
mechanisms long ago, but mine were big and clunky, taking away from the
aesthetic nature of my model...mine didn't work half as well...

The railing is particularly well done...

I would love to see the companion vessel as well...the integration of
everything from classic windows to Pirates to Star Wars elements is a
testament to your creativity...

All you need now is a Blue Admiral/commodore fig...lol

I eagerly await further deveopments...


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Re: Ironclad 'La Gloire'
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Mr L F Braun wrote
See this wee little ship here:

http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/Gloire.html    (case-sensitive!)

Just glorious.

My tallships are not looking forward to it getting around to 1860.

Regards

Richard
Still baldly going...
Check out Port Block at http://www.hinet.net.au/~rparsons/port/


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Re: Ironclad _La Gloire_ virtually complete--mini-page up
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BEAUTIFUL!  You almost inspire me to start making my own warships.

Will

Lego Beach Department of Emergency Services
www.crosswinds.net/~hokie


Subject: 
Re: Ironclad _La Gloire_ virtually complete--mini-page up
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Lindsay:

[ Presents the Gloire ]

http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/Gloire.html    (case-sensitive!)

C'est magnifique!

Joué bon,

Jacob (who has learnt _something_ during his stay in France ;-)

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Subject: 
Re: Ironclad 'La Gloire'
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In lugnet.pirates, Richard Parsons writes:

My tallships are not looking forward to it getting around to 1860.


Just wondering, but what year are most of your ships based on? (hey, I may
even start to get into this kinda stuff).

Erin
--


Subject: 
Re: Ironclad 'La Gloire'
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John Robert Blaze Kanehl wrote:

Those davits are elegant in their simplicity...I  experimented w/ similar
mechanisms long ago, but mine were big and clunky, taking away from the
aesthetic nature of my model...mine didn't work half as well...

I don't know how I figured it out--must have been realising that you need to
hinge them above the bottom (third peghole up).  From there, it's just a few
bricks away to working davits.  I'd wrestled with that one for a long
time--in fact, since the first time I saw those bent-90 pieces!  Hmmm, anyone
have any from the Destroyer Droid they wanna trade away?  ;)  I need 'em in
dkgrey and grey.

The railing is particularly well done...

It's the only use I could find for the flex system tubes--they seemed pretty
useless for much else--and the 1x1 tiles with top clips.  God forbid, I
actually started to *run out* of them!  AucZILLA Technic listings, here I
come.  :)

I would love to see the companion vessel as well...the integration of
everything from classic windows to Pirates to Star Wars elements is a
testament to your creativity...

Thanks for the kind words--but I gotta ask, "What Star Wars elements?"  I
wonder where those appeared...I don't remember using any.

As for the companion vessel, pictures already exist, from when I was first
testing my digital camera (sans tripod):

http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/ironclad_fore.jpg
http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/ironclad_foredeck.jpg
http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/ironclad_midships.jpg
http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/ironclad_profile.jpg
http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/ironclad_stern2.jpg

All you need now is a Blue Admiral/commodore fig...lol

Ah, he'll get a Dr. Cyber head and be "Le tête-a-creche Admiral Jean-Paul
Landeslubbere" or something equally reflective of the bureaucratic idiocy of
the Republican Navy.  Basically, our Captain will be singularly
overcompetent, and our Admiral (a Rear Admiral, natch) will be the politician
who pulled strings to get his Navy connection--and proved so incompetent that
even his allies saw colonial service as a way to get rid of him.

I'll probably put the Captain in an Admiral torso too, though.

I eagerly await further deveopments...

Me too!  :)  Especailly since this ship didn't use up *anything* that I will
need for my next Dreadnought-type vessel--I still have all my grey, blue, and
yellow (for invisible internal structure), not to mention enough red to do
the waterline...

The only thing I'm out of is rigging.  And that's only because eight of the
1x1 round ends broke (five 21L, three 42L)!  I may call Consumer Affairs on
Monday to get a bunch of new ones.

best

Lindsay


Subject: 
Re: The year at Port Block (Re: Ironclad 'La Gloire')
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Erin Windross wrote in message ...
In lugnet.pirates, Richard Parsons writes:

My tallships are not looking forward to it getting around to 1860.

Just wondering, but what year are most of your ships based on? (hey, I may
even start to get into this kinda stuff).

I kind of pitch for 1770-1830.

That gives me 'discovery' of Australia 1770, settlement 1780, Rum Rebellion
1808, HMS Victory, Hornblower, the naval battles of the Nile, Trafalgar and
Navarino, the American War of Independence, the aftermath of the Seven Years
War, the Prussian invasion of the Dutch, and the French Revolution.

(and for the historians among us, I know that other, and some better, stuff
also happened. I just reeled that off as a quick summary, OK?  :-)

And that seemed like adequately fertile ground for models and stories ;-)

When that gets boring periodically, one can always organise a temporal rift
and pull in some ship from the 14th century, a la the 'Soggy Chip de la
Tour'  http://www.hinet.net.au/~rparsons/port/rii/welcome.htm :-)

For me, the history bit is part of the fun - it sort of binds the whole
thing together.

Regards

Richard


Subject: 
Re: Ironclad _La Gloire_ virtually complete--mini-page up
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Having no sizeable pirate collection (yet!), I can't add any blustery
piratey nonsense to express my awe, but you've done a fantastic job!

--


Paul Davidson

Mr L F Braun <braunli1@pilot.msu.edu> wrote in message
news:38C9E463.30D9169A@pilot.msu.edu...
Hi,

_La Gloire_ is now in Phase Nine, meaning it has almost all the bells
and whistles an ironclad might need.  Everything from lifeboat davits
that lower, a complete stern gallery, coal chutes, boiler room, to a
dozen cannon, a fairly complete rig--no brown or black plastic
trapezoidal "ship rig" pieces--and a really nice smokestack with
ventilation ducts, courtesy of many copies of set 7150.  Quigon Effete
(our illustrious captain) is now sailing the high seas for France!

See this wee little ship here:

http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/Gloire.html    (case-sensitive!)

All of these shots are from phase nine.  Earlier phases of construction
are not up yet--but I have photos of almost everything, including the
ductwork, the boiler room, the captain's cabin, and the spacious cargo
hold under the foredeck.  The sailors even have room to sleep...I admit,
they have to sleep under the gun decks and next to the magazines, but if
it's your time to go, it's your time to go.

The very spartan _Gloire_ page will continue to evolve, and there will
be further phases as I reconstruct things and complete the stern section
over the gallery.  Comments welcome!

best

Lindsay



Subject: 
Re: Ironclad 'La Gloire'
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On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, Richard Parsons (<FrBCtC.1CD@lugnet.com>) wrote at
15:46:08

Mr L F Braun wrote

Thanks for the kind words--but I gotta ask, "What Star
Wars elements?"  I wonder where those appeared...I
don't remember using any.

Umm, Lindsay?  Smokestacks?  7150? (http://www.lugnet.com/pirates/?n=729)

Either you're making one of those extra subtle jokes the like of which seem
to get me keel hauled, or you need some sleep man ;-)

Ah. They're not *exclusively* SW elements though, unlike the laser
cannon thingies & cockpit canopies.

--
Tony Priestman


Subject: 
Re: Ironclad _La Gloire_ virtually complete--mini-page up
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2000, Mr L F Braun (<38C9E463.30D9169A@pilot.msu.edu>)
wrote at 06:14:59


The very spartan _Gloire_ page will continue to evolve, and there will
be further phases as I reconstruct things and complete the stern section
over the gallery.  Comments welcome!

Brilliant!

Can I request more pics of the rigging? The ratlines(?) look a bit
threadbare, but the overall effect is very shiplike :-)
--
Tony Priestman


Subject: 
Re: Ironclad 'La Gloire'
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Mr L F Braun wrote
John Robert Blaze Kanehl wrote:
I would love to see the companion vessel as well...the
integration of everything from classic windows to Pirates
to Star Wars elements is a testament to your creativity...

Thanks for the kind words--but I gotta ask, "What Star
Wars elements?"  I wonder where those appeared...I
don't remember using any.

Umm, Lindsay?  Smokestacks?  7150? (http://www.lugnet.com/pirates/?n=729)

Either you're making one of those extra subtle jokes the like of which seem
to get me keel hauled, or you need some sleep man ;-)

Shipbuilding can keep one awake, and take one a bit outside one's envelope,
this I know, but there is a point where one must simply say, 'If I don't go
to bed now, I will be too tired to build tomorrow'

Oh, and La Gloire?  Glorious.  Did I mention that?  I don't know, it all
runs together.  Let's see....it's 1.44am AESST.  You think maybe now is when
*I* say to *myself* 'If I don't go to............

Regards

Richard
Still baldly going...
Check out Port Block at http://www.hinet.net.au/~rparsons/port/


Subject: 
Re: Ironclad 'La Gloire'
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In lugnet.pirates, Tony Priestman writes:
On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, Richard Parsons (<FrBCtC.1CD@lugnet.com>) wrote at
15:46:08

Mr L F Braun wrote

Thanks for the kind words--but I gotta ask, "What Star
Wars elements?"  I wonder where those appeared...I
don't remember using any.

Umm, Lindsay?  Smokestacks?  7150? (http://www.lugnet.com/pirates/?n=729)

Either you're making one of those extra subtle jokes the like of which seem
to get me keel hauled, or you need some sleep man ;-)

Ah. They're not *exclusively* SW elements though, unlike the laser
cannon thingies & cockpit canopies.

--
Tony Priestman

Tony beat me to the explanation of the SW comment...I included the stacks
and the Qui-Gon head as SW elements,forgetting that other Castle and Ninja
theme sets use the 4x4 rounds as wheels...


Subject: 
Re: Ironclad 'La Gloire'
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John Robert Blaze Kanehl wrote:

Tony beat me to the explanation of the SW comment...I included the stacks
and the Qui-Gon head as SW elements,forgetting that other Castle and Ninja
theme sets use the 4x4 rounds as wheels...

Ah.  On the Qui-Gon head, you've got me.  But the other parts are also known from
many other sets--especially the big shuttle from several years ago, that had
*six* (!) of the half-cylinders and a bunch of 4x4 rounds.

Gadzooks, I'm swimming in dkgrey 4x4 rounds now.  It's kind of nice.  Now...on to
building something even BIGGER.  I've got to buy more brick tubs, and maybe some
baseplates.

best

Lindsay


Subject: 
Re: Ironclad _La Gloire_ virtually complete--mini-page up
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Tony Priestman wrote:

Can I request more pics of the rigging? The ratlines(?) look a bit
threadbare, but the overall effect is very shiplike :-)

I'll see if I can get any.  It is a bit threadbare--I don't have enough
TLG-approved rig to do what I want to do, not to mention not having any sails
cut!  :)  The problem with the rig is that it's very hard to photograph,
being black and in a low-light area (basement).  Maybe I'll bring it above
ground for a stroll.

best

Lindsay


Subject: 
Re: Ironclad _La Gloire_ virtually complete--mini-page up
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In lugnet.pirates, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:

Tony Priestman wrote:

Can I request more pics of the rigging? The ratlines(?) look a bit
threadbare, but the overall effect is very shiplike :-)

I'll see if I can get any.  It is a bit threadbare--I don't have enough
TLG-approved rig to do what I want to do, not to mention not having any sails
cut!  :)

Have you considered taking Lego string out of convenient unused winches?  I've
found that in general, clamping the end of a string between bricks is as good a
hold as the little 1x1 round ends.

Come to think of it, you could actually even use the broken strings you
mentioned before, if you haven't disposed of them.

eric


Subject: 
Replacement Rigging (was Re: Ironclad _La Gloire_ virtually complete)
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Lorbaat wrote:

In lugnet.pirates, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:

Tony Priestman wrote:

Can I request more pics of the rigging? The ratlines(?) look a bit
threadbare, but the overall effect is very shiplike :-)

I'll see if I can get any.  It is a bit threadbare--I don't have enough
TLG-approved rig to do what I want to do, not to mention not having any sails
cut!  :)

Have you considered taking Lego string out of convenient unused winches?  I've
found that in general, clamping the end of a string between bricks is as good a
hold as the little 1x1 round ends.

Come to think of it, you could actually even use the broken strings you
mentioned before, if you haven't disposed of them.

I've used them, but in "wrap" form--sandwiched into some other construction.  But
the cording seems too thick to hold well between bricks.  The thread, as you noted,
will work between 'em--the problem is that I only had one piece of unused thread.
:)  I like my cranes to have complete winches, after all.

However, I have no doubt that Consumer Affairs will let me get new threads, seeing
as how this is standard-use breakage, and what's more, it's breakage of things that
had been unused before--the tape was still on them.

best

Lindsay


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