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Subject: 
lattice windows
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lugnet.general
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lugnet.build.arch
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lugnet.space
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Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:56:36 GMT
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Posted this message already,
but since I've used a space wing,
I thuoght it might be interesting for
space too.

Using the lattice windows for church buildings often gave me the feeling of
coming up with too small or too low windows.

Looking for solutins I came up with three variations.

I.
With this picture in mind:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Debarg/Windows/stainglassedwindow.bmp
(deeplink)
(who can help me out where this one came from?
I would be happy to show my debts)

I tried to make a double kind
and extended it with a 2 x 6 arch. I also added a shutter:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Debarg/Windows/latticewindows014.jpg
(deeplink)
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Debarg/Windows/latticewindows015.jpg
(deeplink)

I like the concept, but think it better fits in
with a castle type of building, instead of a church.

II.
Then I came up with this piece:
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=30036

and made this nice window out of it:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Debarg/Windows/latticewindows016.jpg
(deeplink)
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Debarg/Windows/latticewindows017.jpg
(deeplink)

I'm happy to have found use of this big wing,
aside of using it in space mocs.
(Do I see here another link between space and castle? ;-))

III.
After that I thought of using this piece:
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=4151

and came up with the largest version,
and in my opinion with a very decent kind of church window,
easily filled with trans-plates to make the impression
of stained glass windows:

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Debarg/Windows/latticewindows011.jpg
(deeplink)
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Debarg/Windows/latticewindows010.jpg
(deeplink)

In this picture you can see all three of them:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Debarg/Windows/latticewindows009.jpg


As always,
let me know what you think!

Thanks

Daan Bargerbos


Subject: 
Re: lattice windows
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.space, lugnet.castle
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lugnet.castle
Date: 
Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:11:16 GMT
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"Daan Bargerbos" <daan62@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
news:I5KMEC.1MxE@lugnet.com...
<snip>
I.
With this picture in mind:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Debarg/Windows/stainglassedwindow.bmp
(deeplink)
(who can help me out where this one came from?
I would be happy to show my debts) • <snip>
Thanks

Daan Bargerbos

Kev Hall showed me how to do a window like that last year. I guess hes your
man.

the stained glass windows look great btw
and http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Debarg/Windows/latticewindows011.jpg
that looks fantastic

thanks for sharing

--
James Stacey
------
www.minifig.co.uk
Lugnet Member #925
I'm a citizen of Legoland travellin' Incommunicado


Subject: 
Re: lattice windows
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lugnet.space
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lugnet.build.arch
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Date: 
Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:09:42 GMT
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These are so very very very cool!  I can't wait till I have a MOC I can use
these ideas on.

I.  I like this window alot.  I've seen the SNOT fences used that way before,
but I've never seen a fence slipped inside an arch like that.  It REALLY makes
the window for me.  I will most definately be using this idea in the future.

II.  I like this window too.  Unfortunately, I don't own any of the wing pieces,
so building it would be a little tough for me ;)

III.  This is my favorite.  Like #II, I love how you were able to do both the
front and the back side of the design in a very appealing way.  The only
drawback I see are the studs under the window on the inside.

I realize that there's currently no room for a tile in there with the way you
have it attached, but would it be possible to slip something within the front
wall behind a buttress to attach the grate where a tile could be placed under
it?  (Did that make any sense?)  Or is there simply no room for tiles and the
window?

Great work!  I'll be stealing... borrowing the two designs in the future.  My
next castle will be very slick.

--Anthony


Subject: 
Re: lattice windows
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lugnet.space
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lugnet.build.arch
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Date: 
Fri, 15 Oct 2004 08:12:28 GMT
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In lugnet.space, Anthony Sava wrote:
These are so very very very cool!  I can't wait till I have a MOC I can use
these ideas on.

I.  I like this window alot.  I've seen the SNOT fences used that way before,
but I've never seen a fence slipped inside an arch like that.  It REALLY makes
the window for me.  I will most definately be using this idea in the future.

Hello Anthony Sava,

thanks for your compliments!
I think i've seen this solution before on some pirate ship moc,
and kept it in mind, well, till now I suppose.

II.  I like this window too.  Unfortunately, I don't own any of the wing pieces,
so building it would be a little tough for me ;)

III.  This is my favorite.  Like #II, I love how you were able to do both the
front and the back side of the design in a very appealing way.  The only
drawback I see are the studs under the window on the inside.

You are right on this. I thought of fixing it with replacing the brick
with two plates and one tile, but I haven't checked how it looks.
I'll try today and make a picture of it.

I realize that there's currently no room for a tile in there with the way you
have it attached, but would it be possible to slip something within the front
wall behind a buttress to attach the grate where a tile could be placed under
it?  (Did that make any sense?)  Or is there simply no room for tiles and the
window?

I think I've got the picture (and hope to make one ;-).

Great work!  I'll be stealing... borrowing the two designs in the future.  My
next castle will be very slick.
Thou shalt borrow! And know that the one of whom you will borrow,
will be very proud onthis action.

--Anthony

best regards

Daan Bargerbos


Subject: 
Lattice windows revisited and modified (wasRe: lattice windows)
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lugnet.space
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lugnet.castle, lugnet.general
Date: 
Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:32:47 GMT
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Hello Anthony,

you pointed to the studs that still could be seen at the back.
It was a little backdraw in the whole concept
for which I couldn't find a solution.

But a good night rest can change a lot :)

In this picture I've tried to solve the 'stud-problem',
making the complete section as slick as it can be:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Debarg/Windows/latticewindows022.jpg
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Debarg/Windows/latticewindows023.jpg

The dark gray 1 x 10 brick is now replaced by
one layer of 1x10 brown tiles.
Both at the top as on the lower side of the 8x8 lattice frame
I've put brackets that are finished with a brown 1x8 tile.

In this way you can just put the window
in the wall. It's easy and sturdy enough
(won't fall out, unless you push).


So, thanks to you Anthony who pushed my creativity a little bit further ;-)

And by the way,
in my earlier texts I didn't mention that the wall idea of using the
decorated wall brick (2454pb01) in front of the 1x6x5 wall piece,
came to mind when I didn't know what to do with all the 1x6x5 pieces
I had coming from the Slytherin set (3754pb02).
Now the 1x2x5 completely covers the Slytherin motive.

See this picture:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Debarg/Windows/latticewindows018.jpg
(deeplink)

What remains is: now I've got to find a way of using all my 3754pb03 bricks,
but how do you fill an open mouth of a snake :)

Best regards

Daan Bargerbos


Subject: 
Re: lattice windows
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lugnet.space
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Date: 
Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:34:10 GMT
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Hey Daan,

These are wonderful (also Marc and Erik).  I'm going to have to incorporate a
stained glass window into my next MOC.  I just got a bunch of 1x4 lattice fences
at Pick-a-Brick and was wondering what I was going to do with them.  Now I know.
Thanks!  I also never reallized that fence could slip inside the arch like that,
so I'll try to incorporate that as well.

Bruce


Subject: 
Re: lattice windows
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Date: 
Sat, 16 Oct 2004 13:12:25 GMT
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snip

Very interesting.
I am working on somthing like this myself, and got an amazing result using
something like that - fences, and head light holders. For me that seems to be
the best solution. I have 2 versions of my windows, one is ready, while the
other needs some finish.
I hope to have some pictures soon.


Subject: 
Re: lattice windows
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lugnet.space, lugnet.build.arch
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lugnet.build.arch
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Date: 
Sat, 16 Oct 2004 13:36:22 GMT
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sonnich Jensen" <sonnich@hot.ee>
To: <lugnet.space@lugnet.com>; <lugnet.build.arch@lugnet.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: lattice windows


snip

Very interesting.
I am working on somthing like this myself, and got an amazing result using
something like that - fences, and head light holders. For me that seems to
be
the best solution. I have 2 versions of my windows, one is ready, while
the
other needs some finish.
I hope to have some pictures soon.


Hello Sonnich Jensen,

you make me curious: I'm lloking forward to see your pictures!

Daan Bargerbos


Subject: 
Re: lattice windows
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lugnet.space
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Date: 
Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:29:55 GMT
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Hey guys,

I played around with this idea this weekend and made my own (very similar to Erik’s design):

http://www.ozbricks.com/bricktales/misc/castlemisc/castlemisc12/castlemisc12.html

PLMKWYT, Bruce


Subject: 
Re: lattice windows
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lugnet.space, lugnet.castle
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lugnet.castle
Date: 
Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:06:50 GMT
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In lugnet.space, Bruce Hietbrink wrote:
   Hey guys,

I played around with this idea this weekend and made my own (very similar to Erik’s design):

http://www.ozbricks.com/bricktales/misc/castlemisc/castlemisc12/castlemisc12.html

PLMKWYT, Bruce

Nice window .. I’m gonna have to use it in a future MOC of mine.

.. but why is this in .space? Did you make a mistake?

-Lenny

FUT: Castle


Subject: 
Re: lattice windows
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In lugnet.space, Bruce Hietbrink wrote:



http://www.ozbricks.com/bricktales/misc/castlemisc/castlemisc12/castlemisc12.html

I’m so sorry. This should have been in .Castle FUT set accordingly.

Bruce


Subject: 
Re: lattice windows
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Date: 
Tue, 19 Oct 2004 05:59:56 GMT
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In lugnet.space, Daan Bargerbos wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sonnich Jensen" <sonnich@hot.ee>
To: <lugnet.space@lugnet.com>; <lugnet.build.arch@lugnet.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: lattice windows


snip

Very interesting.
I am working on somthing like this myself, and got an amazing result using
something like that - fences, and head light holders. For me that seems to
be
the best solution. I have 2 versions of my windows, one is ready, while
the
other needs some finish.
I hope to have some pictures soon.


Hello Sonnich Jensen,

you make me curious: I'm lloking forward to see your pictures!

Daan Bargerbos

Here are 2 pictures:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=948919
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=948920

They are almost the same as Erik Amzallag did (see other message in thread),
mine is using an arch, and head light holders give the 1/5 offset I need.

They are for a project not yet released, normally I would not public pictures
like this.
The other window will not be published until the model is ready.

Sonnich


Subject: 
Re: lattice windows
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lugnet.space, lugnet.build.arch
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Date: 
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sonnich Jensen" <sonnich@hot.ee>
To: <lugnet.space@lugnet.com>; <lugnet.build.arch@lugnet.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: lattice windows


In lugnet.space, Daan Bargerbos wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sonnich Jensen" <sonnich@hot.ee>
To: <lugnet.space@lugnet.com>; <lugnet.build.arch@lugnet.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: lattice windows


snip

Very interesting.
I am working on somthing like this myself, and got an amazing result
using
something like that - fences, and head light holders. For me that seems
to
be
the best solution. I have 2 versions of my windows, one is ready, while
the
other needs some finish.
I hope to have some pictures soon.


Hello Sonnich Jensen,

you make me curious: I'm lloking forward to see your pictures!

Daan Bargerbos

Here are 2 pictures:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=948919
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=948920

They are almost the same as Erik Amzallag did (see other message in
thread),
mine is using an arch, and head light holders give the 1/5 offset I need.

They are for a project not yet released, normally I would not public
pictures
like this.
The other window will not be published until the model is ready.

Sonnich


Hello Sonnich,

thanks for sharing your pictures and building ideas!
I like the double cross in the windows
(beside any church association,
one can easaliy imagine it to be some kind of heraldic weapon).
I'll have to look into your idea of building a window.
Right now I can't valuate the pro's and/or cons.

You will have to finish your project soon,
otherwise the teaser of the other picture/window takes too much time :-)

Best regards

Daan Bargerbos


Subject: 
Re: lattice windows
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lugnet.space, lugnet.build.arch
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lugnet.build.arch
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Date: 
Wed, 20 Oct 2004 06:33:56 GMT
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snip

Hello Sonnich Jensen,

you make me curious: I'm lloking forward to see your pictures!

Daan Bargerbos

Here are 2 pictures:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=948919
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=948920

They are almost the same as Erik Amzallag did (see other message in
thread),
mine is using an arch, and head light holders give the 1/5 offset I need.

They are for a project not yet released, normally I would not public
pictures
like this.
The other window will not be published until the model is ready.

Sonnich


Hello Sonnich,

thanks for sharing your pictures and building ideas!
I like the double cross in the windows
(beside any church association,
one can easaliy imagine it to be some kind of heraldic weapon).
I'll have to look into your idea of building a window.
Right now I can't valuate the pro's and/or cons.

You will have to finish your project soon,
otherwise the teaser of the other picture/window takes too much time :-)

I hope this year. Right it depends on some bricks I need, just ordered something
from Bricklink, but I'll need more (<- looking for trades please!)

S


Subject: 
Re: lattice windows
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lugnet.build.arch
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Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:18:06 GMT
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Hi Folks,

Good to see such discussion, but.....can ths please be taken out of .space and
FUT to build.arch as a few others have already suggested?

Not that we're burning up the 'net in here these days with our traffic volume
lately :/

Thanks gents,


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