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I’d like to make a suggestion for TLC.
Referencing a role playing game created by TSR (Dungeon & Dragons).
There are many different varieties of dragons. I suggest creating more
dragons in different colors. Colors such as white, blue & red even silver and
gold. Each dragon has different abilities. Red breaths fire, white breaths
frost and blue breaths lightning.
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And make 'em BIGGER!
C'mon, who's afraid of a dragon that's barely larger than a horse?
I propose a set that comes with a few dragon-specific SPUDs, and the rest is
built from bricks and maybe a couple of hinges for poseability... you could
even hide a few ThrowBots-type ball-joints inside it.
Yeah, I know it won't happen, but I can dream. Aw, heck... maybe I'll make
my own.
~Mark
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Mark's Lego Creations
http://www.nwlink.com/~sandlin/lego
> From: "Dave Hacker" <dhacker@walbro.com>
> Organization: None
> Newsgroups: lugnet.castle
> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:17:54 GMT
> Subject: More Dragons
>
> I’d like to make a suggestion for TLC.
> Referencing a role playing game created by TSR (Dungeon & Dragons).
> There are many different varieties of dragons. I suggest creating more
> dragons in different colors. Colors such as white, blue & red even silver and
> gold. Each dragon has different abilities. Red breaths fire, white breaths
> frost and blue breaths lightning.
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Personally I could care less about about the dragons, prefab or otherwise.
And I'm a castle fan.
BEN GATRELLE
(PS Anyone want to buy some dragons...)
In lugnet.castle, Mark Sandlin writes:
> And make 'em BIGGER!
>
> C'mon, who's afraid of a dragon that's barely larger than a horse?
>
> I propose a set that comes with a few dragon-specific SPUDs, and the rest is
> built from bricks and maybe a couple of hinges for poseability... you could
> even hide a few ThrowBots-type ball-joints inside it.
>
> Yeah, I know it won't happen, but I can dream. Aw, heck... maybe I'll make
> my own.
>
> ~Mark
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In lugnet.castle, Ben Gatrelle writes:
> Personally I could care less about about the dragons, prefab or • otherwise.
> And I'm a castle fan.
> BEN GATRELLE
Then why post a reply at all?
~M
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Mark's Lego Creations
http://www.nwlink.com/~sandlin/lego
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Just let me know how much you'd like and I'd seriously consider it.
In lugnet.castle, Ben Gatrelle writes:
> Personally I could care less about about the dragons, prefab or otherwise.
> And I'm a castle fan.
> BEN GATRELLE
>
> (PS Anyone want to buy some dragons...)
>
> In lugnet.castle, Mark Sandlin writes:
> > And make 'em BIGGER!
> >
> > C'mon, who's afraid of a dragon that's barely larger than a horse?
> >
> > I propose a set that comes with a few dragon-specific SPUDs, and the rest is
> > built from bricks and maybe a couple of hinges for poseability... you could
> > even hide a few ThrowBots-type ball-joints inside it.
> >
> > Yeah, I know it won't happen, but I can dream. Aw, heck... maybe I'll make
> > my own.
> >
> > ~Mark
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If I remember correctly, it wasn't too long ago that somebody posted alternate
dragon pics... they had sprayed a dragon white and made it an ice dragon, I
think maybe there was a red dragon too. Anybody have the URL?
In lugnet.castle, Dave Hacker writes:
> Just let me know how much you'd like and I'd seriously consider it.
>
> In lugnet.castle, Ben Gatrelle writes:
> > Personally I could care less about about the dragons, prefab or otherwise.
> > And I'm a castle fan.
> > BEN GATRELLE
> >
> > (PS Anyone want to buy some dragons...)
> >
> > In lugnet.castle, Mark Sandlin writes:
> > > And make 'em BIGGER!
> > >
> > > C'mon, who's afraid of a dragon that's barely larger than a horse?
> > >
> > > I propose a set that comes with a few dragon-specific SPUDs, and the rest is
> > > built from bricks and maybe a couple of hinges for poseability... you could
> > > even hide a few ThrowBots-type ball-joints inside it.
> > >
> > > Yeah, I know it won't happen, but I can dream. Aw, heck... maybe I'll make
> > > my own.
> > >
> > > ~Mark
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O.K. What is everyone's opinion on painting lego? I am currently debating
painting a few minifig heads olive green for an Orc Army. I have everything
(except the heads assembled) I have been trying different heads but to no
avail. Has anyone else tried making orcs? as far as I can tell TLC doesn't
make any green minifig heads. I have tried the mummy head a bunch of blue and
d.grey space heads and the othe podracer's head they all look cool but don't
look right. The mummy head looks best but doesn't make me think orc. anyone
tried stingrays heads I don't have any but I doubt that they would look right
tho the face is really cool. maybe for a demon army. Has the custom lego
direct ordering started yet (and how does that work)? I would like (maybe) a
mummy face printed on a bellville green (I think that bellville has pastel
green peices). I wish they would have custom minifig designs. As long as all
the screens are of current sets it souldn't be dificult. OR maybe a private
promoset. ahhhhhhhhh
my opinion which hasn't gone into practice yet cause I not 100% sure about it
is: that with heads paiting would be o.k. cause there are no green
minifigheads available. Well LMKWYT
John
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There is a _translucent_green_ UFO head, I think, but it wouldn't be good on a
Castle monster. My opinon on painting LEGO is that it shouldn't be done. To
me, the point of LEGO is to build something new and unique using existing
parts. To me, modifying anything is cheating. Pretty much everything will get
invented by TLC if we wait for it (including a green minifig head- probably a
Star Wars Yoda figure) I don't have any stingrays either, but they really do
make me think 'Castle Demon'. Try to get some, second-hand if you have to.
In lugnet.castle, John Carroll writes:
> O.K. What is everyone's opinion on painting lego? I am currently debating
> painting a few minifig heads olive green for an Orc Army. I have everything
> (except the heads assembled) I have been trying different heads but to no
> avail. Has anyone else tried making orcs? as far as I can tell TLC doesn't
> make any green minifig heads. I have tried the mummy head a bunch of blue and
> d.grey space heads and the othe podracer's head they all look cool but don't
> look right. The mummy head looks best but doesn't make me think orc. anyone
> tried stingrays heads I don't have any but I doubt that they would look right
> tho the face is really cool. maybe for a demon army. Has the custom lego
> direct ordering started yet (and how does that work)? I would like (maybe) a
> mummy face printed on a bellville green (I think that bellville has pastel
> green peices). I wish they would have custom minifig designs. As long as all
> the screens are of current sets it souldn't be dificult. OR maybe a private
> promoset. ahhhhhhhhh
>
> my opinion which hasn't gone into practice yet cause I not 100% sure about it
> is: that with heads paiting would be o.k. cause there are no green
> minifigheads available. Well LMKWYT
>
> John
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I have absolutely no qualms about painting, cutting, gluing, sanding scraping, etc.
etc. parts I have plenty of, or just don't like. Johnny Thunders, Qui-Gons, and
Willa Witch's are all customizing-fodder. OTOH, I won't touch my pre-1995 Castle
figures. I learned my lesson after coming out of my DA and trying to reconstruct my
old sets after discovering the new ones weren't that great. I found a bunch of
brown-shirted peasants, but no Wolfpack members. I had scraped the wolf symbol off,
having been completely unimpressed with the 'Pack when they debuted in the 90s (they
were partially responsible for driving me into my DA). Come 2005, no doubt I will be
wailing about how dumb I was to kill off all but one of my Willas when she is
outnumbered 30 to 1 by Princess Storm clones, heehee...
As for orcs, I have tried to sculpt an original headpiece (like the Jar Jar head) out
of Super Sculpey. The plan was to make the piece, make a mold and cast copies of it
to make an army. But I stopped after realizing I had just made a pretty good
Tasmanian Devil (TM) instead. I plan on trying again when I finish up some other
projects.
My take on the customizing question is, if you feel comfortable losing the piece
you'll be modifying, why not? If you're not happy with a piece as it comes out of the
box, why not alter it to make it more satisfying to you? OTOH, as I mentioned above,
there is the "value" question for better or worse with all toys nowadays, not just
LEGO, especially for adult MIB "collectors." I don't consider myself either fully a
TOMB ("tear-out-of-mint-box"--a term from the GI Joe newsgroup) Raider, or a MIB
collector, but a bit of both depending on what I want/need/have at the moment. All
my old (pre-1995) sets are now back to their original form. I did this for a number
of reasons:
1. they're better designed (IMO) than the new sets and are better self-standing
models
2. nostalgia
3. to reaffirm that I have a collection that is almost complete (I like how the
models look when everything is built and arranged in a diorama)
4. to sell or trade off any duplicates to finance future purchases
However, from what I've seen of the new sets, their "collectability" is limited by
the fact that they just aren't (in my opinion) as well-designed as the older sets,
and so I tend to take any duplicates of the new sets apart for parts which more than
occasionally do go under the knife. Plus the fact that since these sets are still
widely available to MIB collectors at or below retail, if you're speculating, you'd
have to wait decades before the demand exceeds supply. I can't wait 30 years to get
my satisfaction, I want to play with my toys NOW!!!
Anyway, it seems a very personal thing. I think you have to decide for yourself if
radically modifying a piece so that you lose the original, but gain a new original,
is worth it. Good luck!
binky
"John Carroll" <johnc@digitalacropolis.com> wrote in message
news:G17G7H.I9A@lugnet.com...
> O.K. What is everyone's opinion on painting lego? I am currently debating
> painting a few minifig heads olive green for an Orc Army. I have everything
> (except the heads assembled) I have been trying different heads but to no
> avail. Has anyone else tried making orcs? as far as I can tell TLC doesn't
> make any green minifig heads. I have tried the mummy head a bunch of blue and
> d.grey space heads and the othe podracer's head they all look cool but don't
> look right. The mummy head looks best but doesn't make me think orc. anyone
> tried stingrays heads I don't have any but I doubt that they would look right
> tho the face is really cool. maybe for a demon army. Has the custom lego
> direct ordering started yet (and how does that work)? I would like (maybe) a
> mummy face printed on a bellville green (I think that bellville has pastel
> green peices). I wish they would have custom minifig designs. As long as all
> the screens are of current sets it souldn't be dificult. OR maybe a private
> promoset. ahhhhhhhhh
>
> my opinion which hasn't gone into practice yet cause I not 100% sure about it
> is: that with heads paiting would be o.k. cause there are no green
> minifigheads available. Well LMKWYT
>
> John
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In lugnet.castle, Bianca Nebab writes:
> I have absolutely no qualms about painting, cutting, gluing, sanding scraping, • etc.
> etc. parts I have plenty of, or just don't like.
I agree! I think the next level of creation IS customization. An earlier
comment about waiting for Lego to come out with stuff? Some things will never
come. Lego was built on the foundation of non-war toys. The fact that they
came out with fright knights is a waver in their dedication to this.
Unfortunately, I wouldn't expect to see any tanks rolling off their production
line anytime soon. So, in the meantime, paint, cut and hack away! I have over
20 dragons. Painting some is no big deal and here is why:
1. Dragons are powerful. They give the bad guys to much advantage.
2. In the AD&D world, there are several colors of dragons representing good
and evil. by painting some in the good colors, this allows me to add a whole
new angle to an army. No longer are JUST castle walls needed for safety.
3. Let's be honest, customized figures are cool! Look at the guy on Ebay
selling all the Marvel characters. He makes big bucks off of 'em!
So, customizing Lego gives you a whole new dimension into expanding your world.
Isn't it their motto: Play Well, The only limits are your imagination.
I have also made some custom trumpeters for my castle. They are cool looking
to and give the castle that more 'realistic' feel (as far as people go).
Note: The gold dragon does have wings. They're just not painted yet.
Brian K>
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In lugnet.castle, Leandro Braga writes:
> Those look pretty cool... I assume they are meant to be statues, right? With
> the gold one as a borken one (no wings)?
>
> Hey also, are people REALLY that uninterested with the Lego PBEM idea? There
> has been very little response to my earlier posts!
>
> In lugnet.castle, Brian Kasprzyk writes:
> >
> >
> > I have a goldand silver dragon made/painted out of the prefabbed. Here's the
> > linkss to them:
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/briankaspr/castle/gd-slvr_dragons.jpg
> > http://www.geocities.com/briankaspr/castle/gold_dragon.jpg
What is PBEM? I posted another note about the dragons further up the string!
The painted dragons are actually for use on the good guy side. The arms, tail,
wings and mouth are all fully operational. Paint does not interfere with the
joints. They may need repainting in those areas if heavy usage occurs.
BK>
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In lugnet.castle, Brian Kasprzyk writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Leandro Braga writes:
> >
> > Hey also, are people REALLY that uninterested with the Lego PBEM idea? There
> > has been very little response to my earlier posts!
>
> What is PBEM?
It's short for 'Play By EMail'. It's a game where each player emails their
actions to the Gamemaster. Many strategic games have a PBEM variant where
players mail their troop movements and get an email back with the updated
situation and events that happened that turn.
Leandro wants to start an PBEM Roleplay game where various characters go on a
quest in a LEGO Castle themed world. See his explaination here:
http://news.lugnet.com/castle/?n=6086
BTW. I'm interested in joining the game :-)
-Frank
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>
> Note: The gold dragon does have wings. They're just not painted yet.
>
> Brian K>
In the AD&D world, gold dragons didn't have wings to begin with, they flew by
magic alone.
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Well thanks everyone, I'm convinced. TLC will not come out with other colors
so I'm going to paint the five spare dragons I have to enhance my armys.
This PBME game sounds really interesting. I'm interested, but is there anyone
willing to go the gamemaster? That is going to be a time consuming job.
In lugnet.castle, Frank Buiting writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Brian Kasprzyk writes:
> > In lugnet.castle, Leandro Braga writes:
> > >
> > > Hey also, are people REALLY that uninterested with the Lego PBEM idea? There
> > > has been very little response to my earlier posts!
> >
> > What is PBEM?
>
> It's short for 'Play By EMail'. It's a game where each player emails their
> actions to the Gamemaster. Many strategic games have a PBEM variant where
> players mail their troop movements and get an email back with the updated
> situation and events that happened that turn.
> Leandro wants to start an PBEM Roleplay game where various characters go on a
> quest in a LEGO Castle themed world. See his explaination here:
> http://news.lugnet.com/castle/?n=6086
>
> BTW. I'm interested in joining the game :-)
>
> -Frank
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> come. Lego was built on the foundation of non-war toys. The fact that they
> came out with fright knights is a waver in their dedication to this.
Huh? How is Fright Knights a war toy? Yes, they take the Royal Knights
as prisoners, but the Forestmen were being captured by the royal guys (not sure
which ones, Crusaders maybe) 10 years before Fright Knights. If LEGO was
wavering their non-war policy, FK wouldn't be the first example. Castle and
Pirates have been about wars for a good while now. And the new Star Wars, how
is that a non-war toy? I think they were meaning that they wouldn't be making
any modern war toys. The modern LEGO is firmy centred around rescue and extreme
sport.
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In lugnet.castle, John Carroll writes:
> O.K. What is everyone's opinion on painting lego? I am currently debating
> painting a few minifig heads olive green for an Orc Army. I have everything
> (except the heads assembled) I have been trying different heads but to no
> avail. Has anyone else tried making orcs? as far as I can tell TLC doesn't
> make any green minifig heads. I have tried the mummy head a bunch of blue and
> d.grey space heads and the othe podracer's head they all look cool but don't
> look right. The mummy head looks best but doesn't make me think orc. anyone
> tried stingrays heads I don't have any but I doubt that they would look right
> tho the face is really cool. maybe for a demon army. Has the custom lego
> direct ordering started yet (and how does that work)? I would like (maybe) a
> mummy face printed on a bellville green (I think that bellville has pastel
> green peices). I wish they would have custom minifig designs. As long as all
> the screens are of current sets it souldn't be dificult. OR maybe a private
> promoset. ahhhhhhhhh
>
> my opinion which hasn't gone into practice yet cause I not 100% sure about it
> is: that with heads paiting would be o.k. cause there are no green
> minifigheads available. Well LMKWYT
>
> John
john ~
i have to stand up and be counted as a proponent of customizing. ;-)
check out my site, especially the "tips & techniques" page (which has a
recounting of my first dragon painting "incident")
http://community.webtv.net/craigo-lego/craigolegoindex
as for the green mini-fig head, i have goblin-boy. (craigo-lego page) i
painted just the face of an old yellow head that was a bit too worn. the
cowl piece covers the rest of the head, and i drew the new face on. there's
system green, pale mint green (from belville), and a medium green found in
belville and the speeder bikes set. my favorite enamel paint pens match the
medium green perfectly.
imho, customizing is just another arena of creativity within the world of
lego. twisted to some, titilating to others, customizing is (informaly
around lugnet) refered to as "the darkside".
later ~ "darth" craig~
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> i have to stand up and be counted as a proponent of customizing. ;-)
> check out my site, especially the "tips & techniques" page (which has a
> recounting of my first dragon painting "incident")
>
> http://community.webtv.net/craigo-lego/craigolegoindex
Actually, let me say this, being the grandson of a master craftsman. It is
very possible to get a thin coat of pait from a can of krylon paint. I know
because I've gotten one myself. Your problem was you did not let the primer
cure for a long enough time. Sure the white paint felt dry, but it wasn't. It
was still chemically unstable. Had you waited 24 hours, or better yet 48, the
Krylon would never have mixed and run with the primer. Plus, you have to be
*VERY* careful when using spray paint on plastic. If you spray paint on an
overly humid day (id say over 75%) the paint will almost never dry. Unless
you use a heat lamp or an equivlant. Well, thats my two cents.
--Anthony
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Brian Kasprzyk wrote:
I was noticing that your home page leads to some pages which provide
links to other pages which depend on Javascript being enabled. You may
want to provide alternative pages which don't depend on Javascript.
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Frank Filz
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Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com (business only please)
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com
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