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Ben Fleskes wrote:
> John and Robin have some really good points. Allow me to side in with my
> opinion.
>
> In some cases it is frustrating that LEGO doesn't sell the extended train
> product line through retailers. But for that to be effective, it would require
> knowledgable retailers and most retailers do not have the expertise to pull it
> off (at least not now).
>
> As an alternative, LEGO could have a prominent LEGO Train website that profiles
> LEGO train creations and offers LEGO train products for sale. I've had
> numerous people tell me they couldn't find trains on the LEGO webpage (www.lego
> .com) That doesn't surprise me, you have to dig through numerous layers of
> graphic intensive menues.
I don't even bother to go to their website. Mr. Justus, are you listening?
> I think most people that are into LEGO trains (ie they can afford them) would
> have access to the internet and experienced with internet shopping. So why
> should LEGO sell to retailers? Why not keep the business for themselves and
> pocket a little extra margin for the trouble? If I was calling the shots, that
> 's what I'd do. (Based on my limited knowledge base and not having perfect
> information).
Excellent ideas, Ben. Makes *perfect* sense. Mr. Justus, are you listening? ;-)
> One interesting point, LEGO trains benefits so much by the presence and
> activity of GMLTC, PNLTC and others. We put on shows at train shows and
> demonstrate products. There is a growing misalignment of interests here. Most
> train shows are positioned to move product - non LEGO products. The greater
> our presence grows, the more it will not be welcomed as long as there is not
> products to sell. Much as Robin wrote about.
>
> We are at the dawn of glorious age for LEGO trains. But I expect our Glory to
> thrive in a way much unlike any other train line, either model or toy train.
Agreed.
> How fast and in what direction the growth will occur will depend highly on what
> LEGO comes up with. I'm sure they have heard our desires, their degree of
> action will govern our growth. Regarless, as long as LEGO train clubs continue
> to grow, LEGO train as a serious hobby will continue to grow with our without
> LEGO's cooperation - provided they do not cut the product line entirely. And I
> very much suspect they will not.
Even if they cut the line entirely, I could see LEGO trains flourishing as a
hobby. All we would have to do is to adopt, say "O" gauge and use its trucks and
track, etc. Purists might rip their clothes and cry blasphemy, but I think it
would catch on. We will continue to grow, regardless. Would be nice if it were
TLC leading the way instead of fleeing away, which is in effect what they are
doing by putting out the pabulum they have called trains the past few years....
> We should all be very excited, we are at the dawn of a Glorious age for LEGO
> trains.
Amen:-)
-John
>
>
> Ben Fleskes
> PNLTC
>
> In lugnet.trains.org, John Neal writes:
> >
> >
> > Robin Werner wrote:
> >
> > > I don't think LEGO Trains will ever have a large following like Star Wars.
> >
> > <snippage galore>
> >
> > Really? I couldn't disagree more. I think the theme Trains could easily eclipse
> > all other themes combined. If it can catch on as an accepted hobby among model
> > railroaders, look out. LEGO trains are getting a lot of free exposure at train
> > shows thanks to groups like yours, the PNLTC, the GMLTC and others. LEGO trains
> > definitely merit a SIG (Special Interest Group) within the NMRA already.
> >
> > The key lies in TLC commitment to the theme, which I think has been demonstrated
> > over the past 30 years. We just need to get the word to TLC that the theme needs
> > to be taken to the next level. By that I mean providing the rudiments of model
> > railroading-- decent track and prototypical trucks and couplers, DCC, operating
> > points, crossings, etc., along with specialty elements which can add to the
> > realism of the trains themselves. Elements such as thin railings, stairs,
> > various window sizes, etc. The Trains theme needs to grow up, or another sub
> > theme such as MODEL TRAINS needs to be created. If TLC can produce such a
> > technological theme as Mindstorms, it could do a revamp of Trains.
> >
> > So we are doing the best we can with what we have, but it could be *so* much
> > better. TLC, take the same energy that you poured into SW and put half of it
> > into Trains and the theme will go bonkers <good thing>
> >
> > .02,
> > John
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