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Re: New MOC: 4-8-4 Northern
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Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:27:54 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Mark Bellis wrote:
   In lugnet.trains, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
  
(1) Working pistons; as with the Hudson, there are two per side - the drive piston and the valve piston. The pistons here actually have the least friction of any of my designs to date - on straightaways they work brilliantly! On the curves, the drive wheels do not ride on the rails of the track, so the pistons do not move.

Could you try adding Walschaert’s valve gear, as I did with my British Class 9F 2-10-0 and LMS Garratt 2-6-0+0-6-2? You can use the ++ pieces for the valve gear cranks and a dark grey 3+stud pin for the main rod crank with model team wheels.

Hi Mark,

Thanks for the feedback!

I finally tracked down some photos of your trains. With respect to the Walchaert’s gear, are you referring to the following?

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=334094

I’m having a tough time pictureing your description ... do you have a link to a clear image?


   I’ve not had tilt problems with my engines, but I usually suspend the wheels off the rails altogether and use two technic 71427 motors to power them - gear ratio 8-24c-8-24c-8 at motor level, with 20-12 from the middle 8 tooth cog down to the driving axle with the valve gear on it. The engine has a 4-wide frame of technic beams, giving holes for gear axles and a strong inner structure.

I’ve thought about using motors as you described to turn the drive wheels, so that they wouldn’t not have to drag along the tracks. The last time I truly looked at this was with my 0-4-0 in an attempt to attain some working linkages in very limited space, but I didn’t meet with any success. I should look at it again here, since I have plenty of room.

You know, it might be that simply adding a motor could solve my problem here; if the drive wheels are *always* moving, I think they could climb themselves back up onto the rails quite easily when coming out of curves. The only major challenge, as I see it, is trying to match the train motor speed with the technic motor reduced drive wheel speed, so that most of the time (except, presumably, on the curves) the two don’t have to fight each other at all. Hmmmmm ...


   This has given me much food for thought

I was just thinking the same thing! Thanks again for the comments, I’m looking forward to playing around with some of these ideas!

-s



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  Re: New MOC: 4-8-4 Northern
 
(...) expansion links but they weren't strong enough, so I reverted to what you see and fixed the motion in forward gear. (...) I wish I had a digital camera to make explaining this easier! I haven't put cranks on my Northern chassis yet, so the (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jan-04, to lugnet.trains, FTX)

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  Re: New MOC: 4-8-4 Northern
 
(...) Excellent model - you're a man after my own heart! Great to see someone else building to 8mm:1ft scale or thereabouts! (...) Could you try adding Walschaert's valve gear, as I did with my British Class 9F 2-10-0 and LMS Garratt 2-6-0+0-6-2? (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jan-04, to lugnet.trains, FTX)

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