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    Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Paul Kleniewski
   take a closer look at 8455 IMHO it has more than 9 pistons near the right rear stake there is one valve positioned in other way i think its valve to control rotation of arm so is has to have 10 or even 11 pistons (and there is 2 pumps) what do you (...) (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Tobbe Arnesson
     (...) Indeed it seems like your right! Zoomes in some more on the photo... (...) I think as follow, front to aft pneumatics only: 1) Two pistons to tilt bucket, clearly showing, and new type of piston w/o bottom 2x2, I dislike it 'cause it will be (...) (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Paul Kleniewski
       "Tobbe Arnesson" <StPnAtM@lotek.nu> wrote in message news:H9u01y.Fpr@lugnet.com... <cut> (...) imo there is a part (URL) it mean the front wheels are suspensioned? :))) (...) in older pictures there was no engine (...) the (...) for me its about (...) (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Tobbe Arnesson
      (...) It could, but I don't think so. Suspension and a pneumatic pump on top does not seem like a very good mix, but who knows? /Tobbe (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Fredrik Glöckner
      (...) There could still be a springless tilting suspension, the kind which always keeps all four wheels on the ground, even with some uneven surface. This is the kind you would typically see on the front wheels of a real vehicle like this. I don't (...) (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Tobbe Arnesson
      (...) Yeah, you're right! There seems to be a ball joint towards the chassis which don't make sence if it don't have suspension. (...) The old photo is of no help other then to verify the front wheel steering. /Tobbe (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Kevin Clague
     <snip> (...) I found an easy solution to piston stacking: (URL) (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Paul Kleniewski
      (...) but it's smart solution i'll use it in next ver of my hoist if you don't mind regards pixel (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Kevin Clague
      (...) Thanks. It is strong also. (...) Be my guest. (...) Kevin (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Tobbe Arnesson
     (...) (URL) point was all of these solutions is impossible with the new cylinder since it lacks the 2 x 2 "brick" in the bottom. /Tobbe (22 years ago, 6-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Kevin Clague
     (...) order (...) a (...) I know. Actually you said it was more difficult. I doubt it is impossible. When I get 8455 I'll have to see what I can do. I've not had a chance to work on back to back small pistons, but I will when I get to the project (...) (22 years ago, 6-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Tobbe Arnesson
     (...) What I meant as impossible is the two solutions found abouve since you no longer can attach studs on the bottom of the piston. I'm sure the pistons still can be attached back-to-back in another manner, hence more difiicult. But who knows? (...) (22 years ago, 7-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Paul Kleniewski
      "Tobbe Arnesson" <StPnAtM@lotek.nu> wrote in message news:H9xI82.E49@lugnet.com... (...) i know it would not to keep the line of lego elements but maybe new pistons have one half of hole as pin and the second half as alxe hole it would solve much, (...) (22 years ago, 7-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Marco Berti
   (...) I had the chance to play with it at the Nurnberg Toy Fair, 10 piston, 2 pumps , no air tank :( It has new pistons and new valve. marco (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Fredrik Glöckner
     (...) I notice that the new valves and cylinders are more "technicified", i.e., they no longer have stud connection, but rather a connection via technic pins/axles. I think that this appears to be a good idea, it makes them easier to incorporate in (...) (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Thomas Avery
     (...) Yes, I agree. However, I'd rather see them with axle holes instead of smooth holes. Regardless, I'm amazed and very happy to see this new set! -TJ (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Kevin Clague
   I'm envious that you got to play with this already Marco. I'm certainly buying it. It will be interesting to see what else I can make with that list of parts. 10 pistons is a lot! Kevin (...) (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Marco Berti
   (...) I had a few minutes free time while attending the show, so I took the chance ... Just the time to realize that is a very nice model but that without airtank, even with the two pump, you pump , make a movement, had to pump again before making a (...) (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Avi Parvin
   By the way, did anyone notice that those two versions of 8455 ar not the same? (URL) I guess you saw the second one. Avi Parvin (...) (22 years ago, 6-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Tobbe Arnesson
   (...) As I wrote here: (URL) between the leaked Marz photo and this photo: 1) A lot more dark grey in the new (my sp-check suggested darker grey :) ). 2) Pneumatic pump has been moved down into the cab and doubled, there were only one 3) The (...) (22 years ago, 7-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Allan Portillo
   (...) I really like this model. Well done lego, the legendary technic is back. The rear wheels do not appear to be those from the 8466 off-roader. They seem to be smaller like the RC car, which means it has new bubble tyres. I wonder why the (...) (22 years ago, 9-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
 

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