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Re: pneumatic cylinder: why not hydraulic ??
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Fri, 9 Apr 2004 16:25:48 GMT
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In lugnet.technic, Kevin L. Clague wrote:
In lugnet.technic, Mark Bellis wrote:
One key thing about hydraulics has always been "avoid leaks".  To switch the
fluid, just invent something I've wished for for years - the reverser switch.
This switch has four ports, used in opposing pairs.  Clockwise in a circle they
would be A, C, B, D.  In the middle position all ports are blocked.  Pushed one
way and A-C and B-D are connected.  Push the other way and A-D and B-C are
connected.  The equivalent is to use four switches, with ports A to D being the
middle ports of each switch.  Connect the outer ports of the switches so that
you get a crossover of the pipes without any leakage to the atmosphere in any
position, whilst moving all four switch levers together.  With ports on a switch
being L, M and R, connect 1L to 3L, 1R to 4R, 2L to 4L and 2R to 3R.  Connect
the inputs to 1M and 2M and a cylinder to 3M and 4M.


Mark,

  I thought this one through, and I get it.  I can see how it works.  The
solution works equally well as my solution.  I don't think mine is any more or
less complicated, just different.  Less hoses, more T's and other technic parts
than yours.

  The wonderful thing is there are two different solutions, and each have their
strengths.

  I've been working on an advanced hexapod that needs 12 reversors.  The
geometry of my reversors present some problems because they are so tall, and
they have to be out of phase.  I'm going to try your reversors and see if they
fit better in the geometries I already have.  I think your geometry will work
better.

  I'll keep you informed.

Kevin
If you're short of space you can always double the reverser back on itself if
you're using the new switches from 8455, in a similar way to your picture.
That's why I like the new switches.  A 2x2 switch module is probably easier to
accomodate than a 1x4, and the tubes might be shorter.  You could use flex tubes
to go underneath the switches and rubber ones only to do the corners, to save on
wasted air.  That's why I want a 100m reel of flex tubing.

If you put switches 1&3 on one side and 2&4 on the other, you only need two
tubes to go underneath and there are two gaps between switch mounts to put them
in!

When I have time I'll try to get pictures of the robots and example systems
online.

Mark



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  Re: pneumatic cylinder: why not hydraulic ??
 
(...) Cool, I look forward to it. I ended up adding two 1x4's per leg on my hexapod. They fit nicely. It looks very burly with all those switches though. All the structure and pneumatic parts are there, except hoses and T's. Hooking up all the hoses (...) (21 years ago, 10-Apr-04, to lugnet.technic)

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  Re: pneumatic cylinder: why not hydraulic ??
 
(...) Mark, I thought this one through, and I get it. I can see how it works. The solution works equally well as my solution. I don't think mine is any more or less complicated, just different. Less hoses, more T's and other technic parts than (...) (21 years ago, 9-Apr-04, to lugnet.technic)

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