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  Re: Studless Technic models
 
(...) Don't catch my on my every word, please, I'm not a native speaker so expressing some subtle feelings and so are rather hard for me ;-) I just think of studded beams/holed plates as a 'compatibility layer' between System and Technic. My old 744 (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
(...) This is the same point I made earlier. Building with studless is hard therefore possibly damaging it's appeal to the kids who are supposed to be the market for technic. Adult users of Technic are I think very rare. And how with studless do you (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
(...) Cool. :) It just makes sure we're all on the same page. (...) Actually it was specifically the words, "right to live" that seemed to indicate you felt these parts were dead, gone, deleted, discontinued etc. etc. Once again, this was why I (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
(...) Yes. (...) I should have written 'the studless beams'. (...) Of course, I'm not against the studless beams. I'm against replacement of studded beams with studless in new Technic sets, rendering them incompatible with System. Technic (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
(...) But this complication is unnecessary and doesn't bring anything new/positive. Rather the other things - studless beams are incompatible with System. That's a major issue. They had to design completely new pneumatics for it. We may also see new (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
Hello everybody, (...) True. But then, I have enough studded beams to build whichever way I want. Therefore I welcome the addition of other types of parts to my collection. In fact, LEGO has to come up with new cool parts in new cool models to make (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Purpose of part 32072
 
Hello everybody, Others have already elaborated on the advantages of this part, so let me just add a picture taken from the 8455 alternate model for those of you who haven't seen the part in its original application yet: (URL) The primary 8455 (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Part colors?
 
Hello everybody, (...) Moreover, some of these blue parts ARE visible on the alternate model: (URL) And IMO they would look better in black or grey, respectively ... Greetings Horst (21 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
(...) I'm usually more of a lurker here nowadays, but when this topic came up (again), I had to add my 2 cents. Allan, I couldn't agree with you more. Technic is supposed to be more complicated than other lines. To me complicated = more challenging, (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
(...) Jindrich, I also understand both sides of the argument. I see uses for both types of pieces, so I'm not hard core in either direction. (...) Also, I hope you understood my question about what it was you were concerned about. I just wanted to (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
(...) Here are sets in 2003 that have studed beams (technic bricks with hole(s)): 8381 - 2 8380 - 2 8384 - 2 8364 - 10 8357 - 2 7471 - 4 this one has studless beams too. 7470 - 35 this one has studless beams too 7469 - 19 7468 - 1 7467 - 3 7422 - 1 (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
(...) You haven't read my post properly, at the bottom it says I wouldn't mind mixed. (...) But RIS 2.0 is a set you buy for the RCX (and parts) not a set you buy for parts only. It costs £70-100 pounds second hand on Ebay. And you don't get ten (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic, FTX)
 
  Re: Purpose of part 32072
 
I believe it's so you don't have to align the front wheels. There's only one way the part can go in and the wheels will be correctly aligned. (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
(...) This is a difficult statement to confirm or deny. Please note that there are very very few sets (beginning with 2002) which still have the TECHNIC moniker. One of the 2004 World City police sets has an alternate model on the back of the box (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic, FTX)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
Jindroush wrote: > Jindroush wrote: > >>Peeron is down right now. I'll try to do a search as it goes up. But >>looking in the 2003 catalog, none of the 'Technic' sets seem to have >>them. Don't know about Bionicle/Star Wars/Racers though. Few (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
(...) There are no 2003 TECHNIC sets that have studed beams. There certainly are non-TECHNIC sets that have them (...) So you are ALL or NOTHING. This is fine on a set by set basis, but not across the entire product line. (...) With the 2003 TECHNIC (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic, FTX)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
(...) Everyone can see that the two systems have their own advantages and that combining the two gives the advantages of both, but thats not the problem. The problem is that the 2003 sets had NO studded beams. (...) Having a few studded beams in a (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic, FTX)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
(...) Then I'm concerned for them too. Maybe LEGO will go back to them as it is shifting back to its core product lines. Steven is right. They are more open to input right now that they have been in a long time. Kevin (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
Hi Kevin, (...) I think this misunderstanding arose from my bad pidgin english, I should have stressed that 'only studless' phrase. (...) I've recently re-built my 8479 Barcode Truck - this is a 'traditional' set and I can bet, that taking few first (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
(...) Replying to myself, phew ;-) AFAIK in Technic, last sets containing studded beams are 3804 RIS2.0 (2001), 8466 4x4Offroader (2001) & 8461 Williams (2002). 8431 Crane Truck (2002) doesn't count, as it is a re-release. Sets for 2003: 8441 (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)


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