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Re: Drawers vs tilt-bins and scratching?
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Sat, 19 May 2001 22:20:18 GMT
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In lugnet.storage, Suzanne D. Rich writes:
> Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> > 
> > In lugnet.storage, Suzanne D. Rich writes:
> > 
> > > No one should have a system that requires (or allows?) drawers to be
> > > opened hundreds of times a day. That sort of thing is easily avoided.
> > 
> > I'd like to hear more about this if it's not confidential.
> 
> In a tilt-bin setup, bins get opened only once (they stay open) no
> matter how many times parts are taken from them. They can also be removed.
> 
> In a tray system, as at TLC, the entire drawer is a compartmentalized
> tray (aprox 24x30x3). It gets pulled out, then taken over to a
> worktable. Or, if the user is holding an empty tray, they pull a
> selection of elements they expect to use in that session. Often, a
> number of trays are on the worktable at once.

So it sounds like the key is having a big enough worktable so you can have
the likely trays out and available as you do your design run?

> 
> A pulled out drawer blocks access to the drawer beneath. So, if using
> this system, one can start out with an empty tray (aprox 18x22x3),
> remove any drawers they expect to use, and arrange them inside. In the
> case of Akro-Mills drawers, there are a few LEGO set boxes with exactly
> the correct dimensions for filling, as a tray, with a grid of drawers.
> With experience, this method feels natural and requires a drawer to be
> pulled out only once.
> 
> Personally, I find the pull-out drawers maddening. They are designed for
> storage, not the kind of usage required when building. As you can see
> above, I turn the drawer system into a tray system to use it. If I were
> forced to use drawers and could not remove them, I would fill only every
> other row of drawers, allowing any to be left open while building.

I agree about drawers, i don't use them and would find them maddening as
well. Where I went wrong is that much of my larger parts are in the shoebox
bins which I keep vertically stacked (nested) on shelving. I am constantly
going and getting parts out of them, stacking and restacking. Big waste of
time. But in order to have all of them spread out around me, it would
require 2-300 square feet of table space. So still not workable. Vertical
*is* the way to go. Just not the way I went.

The idea of getting out inserts and putting them into a carrier as you
describe above sounds like a huge win. This wasn't how things were organised
at the Media lab, though, right? I seem to recall that being in drawers but
I could be misremembering.

++Lar

++Lar



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  Re: Drawers vs tilt-bins and scratching?
 
(...) I do the same with the larger parts...the vertical nesting stacks. I have to do the same, always running to the shelfs. Drives me nuts. I also have about twenty Plano thin, clear boxes (with lids) for the smaller parts. That helps, but still (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-01, to lugnet.storage)
  Re: Drawers vs tilt-bins and scratching?
 
(...) Yeah, spread-out space is important. But it doesn't have to be fancy. Even if one has a flip-down table-top, it'd a big help. My Dad built a train table like that - it flipped up against the wall when not in use. I've seen sewing tables like (...) (25 years ago, 20-May-01, to lugnet.storage)
  Re: Drawers vs tilt-bins and scratching?
 
Just hanging off of Larry's post semi-randomly.... Some thoughts on storage and building: My storage scheme is that parts which sort into a large volume get stored in Hefty One-Zip freezer weight bags, and then get stored in tubs and drawers of (...) (25 years ago, 20-May-01, to lugnet.storage)

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  Re: Drawers vs tilt-bins and scratching?
 
(...) In a tilt-bin setup, bins get opened only once (they stay open) no matter how many times parts are taken from them. They can also be removed. In a tray system, as at TLC, the entire drawer is a compartmentalized tray (aprox 24x30x3). It gets (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-01, to lugnet.storage)

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