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Re: Motorbike contest anyone?
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Sat, 12 Jan 2002 21:52:41 GMT
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"Dave Johann" <legomecha@adelphia.net> writes:
> In lugnet.space, William R. Ward writes:
> > We had a contest at our local LUG meeting where you could vote as >many
> > times as you entered, and it worked quite well. It's a way of
> > encouraging people to create more entries. If there is overwhelming
> > sentiment in favor of one person / one vote, I'll back down, but I
> > think we should at least try it according to one model / one vote.
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> This seems like the only way to encourage new entries. After all, that is
> partly why many of us entered multiple entries in the Hoverthing contest.
> One entry=one vote for someone else.
Yeah, I agree. I think I'll stick with the one entry = one vote rule.
> > Also the rule about not voting for yourself is totally unenforceable
> > if the votes are secret, so we didn't use that rule at our LUG contest
> > (voting was done on slips of paper anonymously inserted into a box).
> > But if the moderator is looking at the ballots, then it can be
> > enforced, and it would probably help make the winners rise above the
> > noise better. So I'll include that rule - you can't vote for any of
> > your own models.
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> This is fairly obvious AFAIAC. Voting for yourself creates an all-around
> tie. If there is a moderator who doesn't enter and just accepts entries from
> entrants :], then that person can look at my ballot and verify that I didn't
> vote for myself. This could provide some interesting strategy within the
> voting process.
I don't think people are necessarily so selfish that you end up with
an all-around tie. But it does let someone enter one cool item and 9
lame ones, and use all 10 of their votes to tip the balance in favor
of their cool one. Not that any of you would *do* that... ;-) So no
voting for yourself.
> > To my mind, the problem with CAD is it gives you an infinite pallette
> > of bricks to work with. Part of the challenge of LEGO design is that
> > you have to work with what you have (or can easily obtain via BrickBay
> > etc.). So as long as it's in keeping with the spirit of that, I guess
> > we can allow CAD models.
> >
> > Saying that the pieces used must exist in real life in those colors
> > still allows for extremely rare pieces to be used in quantity. So I'd
> > rather say something like: "... so long as the pieces exist in real
> > life in those colors and quantities, in the collections of most AFOL
> > spaceheads."
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> UGH! CAD entries present a slew of problems for such a contest. You've
> outlined most of the reasons why CAD is BAD. What is completely unfair about
> the use of CAD for such a contest is it allows a near infinite number of
> RARE parts in rare colors for such a project. If you wanted to invest the
> time, energy and cashflow into tracking down the parts you need, then I see
> a project that is both well developed and a true labor of love for this
> contest. CADing an entry doesn't require nearly as much effort as building
> it for real given the time constraints we are facing.
I'm inclined to say "no CAD" or maybe CAD is OK if you can produce
pics of an identical ABS model, perhaps with some wrong colors. But
all parts used in the CAD model would still need to be readily
available in those colors. Maybe "available on BrickBay" would be a
good touchstone for that?
> > How about this: start date is Jan 1, end is Jan 31.
>
> Great for Adrian. Not so great for those of us who now have to play 'catch
> up'. Any chance we can change the dates to Jan 7-Feb 7? That gives us a
> more realistic chance of catching the current leader and pushes the contest
> closer to Brickswest dates-a nice place to show off the models IRL.
I definitely want to have the winners announced either before or at
the Brickswest event. I don't know how many of the entrants and
potential entrants are going to be there, but it'd be fun to have a
little "awards ceremony" wouldn't it? ;-)
So the deadline won't be any later than Feb 16. I'd like to have it a
little earlier to allow for tallying of votes. How about Feb. 11
(Sunday)? I'll leave the start date as Jan 1 so Adrian doesn't kill me.
--Bill.
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William R Ward bill@wards.net http://www.wards.net/~bill/
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| (...) I'm still not sure about that. I'm going to go on a stastistical extreme here to prove a point. Let's say that there are 7 entries. Six are the ones I've already completed, and one comes from somebody else. I have six votes, and he gets one. (...) (23 years ago, 13-Jan-02, to lugnet.space)
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| (...) This seems like the only way to encourage new entries. After all, that is partly why many of us entered multiple entries in the Hoverthing contest. One entry=one vote for someone else. (...) This is fairly obvious AFAIAC. Voting for yourself (...) (23 years ago, 12-Jan-02, to lugnet.space)
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