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    studless construction practice —Robert C. Peterson
   While you guys are smacking each other, my son and I are practicing some studless construction and let me tell you the Star Wars HAIL FIRE DROID and the DESTROYER DROID are some impressive constructions. To make the wheels work on the HAIL FIRE it (...) (18 years ago, 14-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)  
   
        Re: studless construction practice —Mike Walters
     (...) Kind of a newbie question: Is there a trend toward studless in more than just Mindstorms? If so, is the thought that it is mostly because of expiring patents or are there other reasons. If we're going to look for studless practice, are there (...) (18 years ago, 14-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: studless construction practice —Benton Jackson
     (...) Technic has been mostly studless for several years now. Get some of those big trucks and cranes to get some practice at it, and a supply of parts. Also, some of the advanced star wars kits are studless technic. (...) You can mix them just (...) (18 years ago, 15-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: studless construction practice —Tim Byrne
     (...) I’m curious about the advantages of studless construction. Steve suggested learning to build without studs here as well: (URL) guess I’m a little unclear on the advantage to using studless beams. All of these components (NXT / motors / (...) (18 years ago, 16-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: studless construction practice —Matthew Davidson
      (...) One advantage is rectified horizontal/vertical hole placement. To have an even ratio vertical hole distance using studded beams, you have to place two plates between each beam. Studless beams do not have this problem, and also provide a hole (...) (18 years ago, 16-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: studless construction practice —Matthew Davidson
     (...) One advantage is rectified horizontal/vertical hole placement. To have an even ratio vertical hole distance using studded beams, you have to place two plates between each beam. Studless beams do not have this problem, and also provide a hole (...) (18 years ago, 17-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: studless construction practice —Ross Crawford
      In lugnet.robotics, Matthew Davidson <matthew@blank.org> wrote: I agree with most of that except this: (...) I think 3-d studless constructions are require much more support structure to reduce twisting. Studded construction can do this with very (...) (18 years ago, 17-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: studless construction practice —Brian Davis
     (...) Although there is a disadvantage here too. I find fewer spacing options with studless constructions, actually. Integer and half integer spacing is easy, but not 1/3rd integer spacing that I can get with plates. Additionally, very fine spacings (...) (18 years ago, 17-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: studless construction practice —Philippe Hurbain
     (...) I guess you mean (URL) ... (...) I completely agree with Brian. While I do like studless construction (I still need more time to think and build with them, but the result is more refined), I use studded beams when I need stiffness. A single (...) (18 years ago, 17-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: studless construction practice —Rohan Beckett
     I've recently got back into technics.. and got a few of the 2004/05 kits... my first impression was: "This is Peg-o... not Lego!" after my first 4 hour session of building the 8436 truck.. my fingers were really sore from inserting so many little (...) (18 years ago, 20-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: studless construction practice —Brian Davis
     (...) Wait until you try to take the dang things apart ;-). For studless disassembly, I find a thin sheet of textured rubber invaluable for gripping the pins to pull them out (commonly used for opening stubborn jar lids). This does point out one (...) (18 years ago, 1-Feb-06, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: studless construction practice —Ray Sanders
   (...) A year back or so I did some messing with the hailfire wheel, trying to find different ways of supporting it. One of the minor things I learned is that the hailfire teeth are basically an inverted gear. If you try to drive it with small (...) (18 years ago, 15-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: studless construction practice —Ross Crawford
   (...) It depends how well you keep it centred. I drive it with a single 8-tooth gear here, with no problems at all: (URL) (18 years ago, 15-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
 

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