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Re: studless construction practice
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lugnet.robotics
Date: 
Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:11:28 GMT
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I've recently got back into technics.. and got a few of the 2004/05 kits...

my first impression was: "This is Peg-o... not Lego!"

after my first 4 hour session of building the 8436 truck.. my fingers were
really sore from inserting so many little black pegs/connectors.


I have also noticed that studless kits are extremely bendy/flexible (and
also seem to have a LOT less gears)
..which were my favourite parts in the old lego technic kits I used to play
with 20 years ago.

I used to enjoy building a chassis, then using regular lego plates/bricks to
cover it up.. not as easy with studless..



Of course, to rectify the problem, I simply went out and bought the 8480
Shuttle on Ebay.. :-)
man.. that thing is *super* rigid... looks awesome.. and has an astronomical
(har har) amount of gears in the gearbox, and underbelly.


I have sat down on several occasions, and tried my hardest to build
something cool from scratch, with studless.. but I find my experimentation a
LOT slower, since it takes longer to 'plan out' a mechanism, and longer to
fix mistakes in the design... pulling apart pegs/beams etc..

while I have admiration for the designers of the recent studless kits, I
just find them so much harder to work with, when building from scratch.

Rohan.
(first lugnet post! :)



"Philippe Hurbain" <philohome@free.fr> wrote in message
news:It8CKG.CIt@lugnet.com...
   Like the cross-blocks http://peeron.com/inv/parts/653 in various
lengths - I
use these all the time it seems.
I guess you mean http://peeron.com/inv/parts/6536 ...

Studless designs are stronger and more rigid.
As to rigid, I *strongly* disagree - I've
yet to see a studless design that rivals a studded frame for rigidity.
Sometimes, this can work to your advantage - a structure with some give
is often
more forgiving of stresses than a very rigid one. But if you really
*need* a
rigid structure, well... I'm open to being proven wrong here (yet again),
but
I've not seen it yet.


I completely agree with Brian. While I do like studless construction (I
still
need more time to think and build with them, but the result is more
refined), I
use studded beams when I need stiffness. A single studless beam is already
much
less rigid than a studded one.

And I have yet to find a way to create a compound long studless beam with
good
stiffness and strength. Sandwitching studless beams between plates works
rather
well... but it is no longer studless construction!

Philo



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(...) Wait until you try to take the dang things apart ;-). For studless disassembly, I find a thin sheet of textured rubber invaluable for gripping the pins to pull them out (commonly used for opening stubborn jar lids). This does point out one (...) (18 years ago, 1-Feb-06, to lugnet.robotics)

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(...) I guess you mean (URL) ... (...) I completely agree with Brian. While I do like studless construction (I still need more time to think and build with them, but the result is more refined), I use studded beams when I need stiffness. A single (...) (18 years ago, 17-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)

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