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Re: French Navy Ranks
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Tue, 26 Mar 2002 07:05:24 GMT
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In lugnet.pirates, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> In lugnet.pirates, Richie Dulin writes:
> > I'm building up a small French fleet (Napoleonic/Pirate era), and would like
> > to have authentic(ish) crew and ranks.
> >
> > The fleet will be commanded by a Capitain de Corvette sailing in a 12 gun
> > brig, and the other two ships are a bomb ketch and a sloop-of-war. The three
> > 'big' ships will be accompanied by a couple of gunboats.
> >
> > IIRC, the British Navy would have had the ketch and the sloop under the
> > command of Lieutenants, and the gunboats under the command of Midshipmen.
> >
> > Did the French Navy have the equivalent of Lieutenants-in-Command? Did they
> > have Midshipmen or equivalents?
> >
> > And what enlisted ranks were there in the French Navy?
> >
> > Or am I just being way too obsessive?
> >
> > Answers, corrections, or directions to either would be appreciated.
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> I haven't seen too many references to French naval ranks in the
> Napoleonic period. The "Piratic Era" might be better considered
> ancien-regime; at least there, the ranks are standard. One of the
> problems with the Revolution, Directory, Consulate, and Empire is
> that rank systems and philosophies of rank were in flux (much as
> they'd be in the Soviet military, where levelling was pursued far
> too agressively).
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> So I'm not sure where you'd look for French naval ranks, but I'm
> gonna do some digging.
OK--I've checked both in English and in French on the Web, and I've
found nothing that's obviously a list of French naval ranks. I
think you'll have to go to academic tomes, but I don't yet have any
titles for you. How's your French? Do you have access to a good
library (e.g., a university library)?
What I *can* tell you is that the divide between the normal rank of
seamen and any officers was pretty significant in the French navy
(at least before the reign of Napoleon). It led to a lot of trouble
between officers and crew, and a much higher incidence of mutiny--and
lower preformance and self-sacrifice--among French and Spanish crews
than British or American ones. The class divide was really very
staggering.
best
LFB
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| (...) I'm disappointed in your web searching skills, LFB :) I found this page after about a minute. It's a web page that lists a lot of different country's ranks of their various military branches. Unfortunately (or not) the ranks are in the native (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-02, to lugnet.pirates)
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| (...) I haven't seen too many references to French naval ranks in the Napoleonic period. The "Piratic Era" might be better considered ancien-regime; at least there, the ranks are standard. One of the problems with the Revolution, Directory, (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-02, to lugnet.pirates)
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