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In lugnet.admin.general, Tim Courtney wrote:
> I'm ashamed of all the Larry-bashing that's been taking place.
>
> If you've only interacted with the man online (which I believe is the case with
> some of his harshest critics), you have no perspective on who he really is.
> Hence, you're really not qualified to judge him. May be qualified to
> CONSTRUCTIVELY criticize his online interactions, perhaps, but not to judge the
> person. Period.
>
> Larry has a thicker skin than anyone I know. He puts up with personal attacks to
> the frequency and degree that would have caused me to stop giving back years
> ago. What is Larry sticking around to do? Give back to the people who trash him
> by his service to the community.
>
> Now that takes character.
>
> Personally, I've observed quite a few people recently (and throughout the last
> few months) who definitely don't deserve Larry [1]. Why he sticks it out? I
> don't know. Where's his ROI here? It's definitely not monetary, the "power" is
> surely nothing to write home about, and the jobs he chooses to do in the
> community are ever so thankless (been there, done all of it).
>
> What I do know, though, is Larry does stick it out. And that's one of the
> reasons I hold him in the highest possible regard.
>
> Yes, Larry has his faults, which I believe lie in delivery. The points Larry
> makes about peoples' behavior are spot-on, though yes, I know he's a wee bit
> rough around the edges when communicating that. I've also seen to what lengths
> he goes to change, and how much he's changed and grown over the last couple
> years.
>
> Contrarily, each time there's a flare-up like this, I notice a couple more
> people who flatly don't deserve to benefit from Larry's hard work, or the hard
> work of *any* administrator. Defensive, rabblerousing, ungrateful, spiteful.
> People I don't want to share a community with. [2]
>
> If you want to run people out of town, fine. Such actions are foolish [3],
> though. Don not do that and claim you want LUGNET to turn around, for personally
> attacking administrators erodes the very foundation of the site [4].
>
> Don't stomp on your blessings.
>
> -Tim
>
> [1] Also, I've seen some folks in this recent discussion who I continue to hold
> in high esteem for their respectful and polite disagreement. Thanks, guys.
>
> [2] And major contributors to my change in approach to the community--now I'm
> picking my friends and associations and making them quality ones rather than
> invest my time in the poop-fest that is the public square.
>
> [3] In the Proverbial (capital-P) sense, not meaning 'goofy.'
>
> [4] And you should be smart enough to get that.
I think most people know I'm not much of a "me too" guy. But sometimes, you just
have to say, ME TOO!
Larry's work has been dilegent and has profoundly contributed to our community.
Larry's work in all the aspects of the community that he has been involved in
would surprise you. He, (to my knowledge) gets nothing from it, other than bad
phone calls in the middle of the night (I've done that) and a flood of email
that he wades through.
Anyway, I just wanted step up and have my voice heard. Thanks Tim for making a
great post, and for making your points very direct.
Rich
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