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Re: CFD: Subgroups for lugnet.org.us & lugnet.trains.org
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lugnet.org.us
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Wed, 24 Nov 1999 04:04:34 GMT
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In lugnet.org.us, Todd Lehman writes:
> In lugnet.org.us, "Eric Kingsley" <kingsley@nelug.org> writes:
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> > Todd,
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> > Could we have this yesterday? :-) ...
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> Say, Eric, how do you maintain NELUG's member list? (Add new people's
> names, keep track of their email addresses, list their websites, etc.)
As you probably guessed it is all manual.
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> It just occurred to me when I saw this page,
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> http://www.nelug.org/members/
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> that LUGNET could help automate some of those sorts of thing for you. For
> example, if there were a /org/us/nelug/ section on LUGNET, it would be very
> easy to set you up as an admin of that area -- kind of like what JohnVZII
> does for Datsville -- but also then to leverage parts of the LUGNET
> membership processes (like automated sign-ups and automated page/listings
> generation).
Something like this would be wonderful. It might take a little time to get
things synchronized but it would probably be much simpler to maintain in the
long run.
I would definitly like to talk to you more about this and how it would work.
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> > While this is true I don't think it would eliminate the need for the NELUG
> > mailing list entirely. For the most part this list is used to share
> > information such as home addresses, phone #'s, and directions to meetings
> > which are often held at someones home. Things like this IMHO are not things
> > people want to post in a public forum.
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> > So while I think this would greatly reduce the need for a mailing list I
> > don't think it would necessarily eliminate the need entirely.
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> Another thought -- not to diminish the private mailing list but to address
> its advantages differently: What if you could create informational pages in
> the /org/us/nelug/ area that only NELUG members (who've gone through NELUG's
> official membership process and obtained official NELUG membership) could
> access -- and would be restricted to outsiders?
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> These might be things like, as you mentioned, directions to meetings or
> people's phone numbers, or they could really contain any information for the
> group. Allowing sub-communities (such as user groups or clubs) to create
> privileged-access pages is also relatively easy to implement now given the
> evolving LUGNET website architecture, and has always been part of the
> long-term plan as well.
This sounds wonderful. Does not diminish the private mailing list one bit. In
fact if anything it eliminates it :-). Sorry, that sounds wierd. The
elminiation of the mailing list is not a bad thing in my mind. In fact I would
love to not have to worry about it any more.
I can only see good things from something like this. Of course there would
have to be a mechanism where if we had a problem we could either change the
access to the area or restrict someone from the area. This is just a security
for any unforeseen problems in the future.
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> > All very nice I can hardly think of a remote reason to not do this. One
> > issue though, as these sort of groups continue to pop-up I can see a bit of
> > a maintenance issue with the lugnet.org expanding to cover other contries
> > and local areas. The other issue would be when do you include a group and
> > what criteria do you use?
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> That's a tough one. Larry's suggestion about a "tangible manifestation" in
> <http://www.lugnet.com/org/us/?n=180> sounds like a great general starting
> point to me. :)
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> > Is a web site a must?
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> Not IMHO... In fact, if a group was having trouble raising money for a
> domain or didn't have anyone with the expertise to set up a free geocities
> site or other technical things like that, the group (assuming it had a
> "tangible manifestation" could even just point people at the /org/us/xyzpdq/
> area on LUGNET as their starting point or web site if they wanted to, until
> they had a real site). In other words, a little mini-website on LUGNET just
> for them would be an automatic freebie for any group making the leap into
> existence.
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> > Does the group have to meet at least once?
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> That's a great question. From my point of view, things I'd look for as
> "tangible manifestations" are things like an actual count of people (say, 4
> or 5 or more) and a name and a purpose and a geographical area, etc.
This all sounds great. These were more just constructive questions more than
anything else. I definitly don't think a web site is a necessity although I
don't think just because someone says that they are starting a group an area
should be set up. I am sure you would not let this happen anyway but I just
thought I would bring it up.
Eric K.
The New England LEGO Users Group
http://www.nelug.org/
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