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Re: CFD: Subgroups for lugnet.org.us & lugnet.trains.org
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Wed, 24 Nov 1999 04:04:34 GMT
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In lugnet.org.us, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.org.us, "Eric Kingsley" <kingsley@nelug.org> writes:

Todd,

Could we have this yesterday?  :-) ...

Say, Eric, how do you maintain NELUG's member list?  (Add new people's
names, keep track of their email addresses, list their websites, etc.)

As you probably guessed it is all manual.


It just occurred to me when I saw this page,

  http://www.nelug.org/members/

that LUGNET could help automate some of those sorts of thing for you.  For
example, if there were a /org/us/nelug/ section on LUGNET, it would be very
easy to set you up as an admin of that area -- kind of like what JohnVZII
does for Datsville -- but also then to leverage parts of the LUGNET
membership processes (like automated sign-ups and automated page/listings
generation).

Something like this would be wonderful.  It might take a little time to get
things synchronized but it would probably be much simpler to maintain in the
long run.

I would definitly like to talk to you more about this and how it would work.



While this is true I don't think it would eliminate the need for the NELUG
mailing list entirely.  For the most part this list is used to share
information such as home addresses, phone #'s, and directions to meetings
which are often held at someones home.  Things like this IMHO are not things
people want to post in a public forum.

So while I think this would greatly reduce the need for a mailing list I
don't think it would necessarily eliminate the need entirely.

Another thought -- not to diminish the private mailing list but to address
its advantages differently:  What if you could create informational pages in
the /org/us/nelug/ area that only NELUG members (who've gone through NELUG's
official membership process and obtained official NELUG membership) could
access -- and would be restricted to outsiders?

These might be things like, as you mentioned, directions to meetings or
people's phone numbers, or they could really contain any information for the
group.  Allowing sub-communities (such as user groups or clubs) to create
privileged-access pages is also relatively easy to implement now given the
evolving LUGNET website architecture, and has always been part of the
long-term plan as well.

This sounds wonderful.  Does not diminish the private mailing list one bit.  In
fact if anything it eliminates it :-).  Sorry, that sounds wierd.  The
elminiation of the mailing list is not a bad thing in my mind.  In fact I would
love to not have to worry about it any more.

I can only see good things from something like this.  Of course there would
have to be a mechanism where if we had a problem we could either change the
access to the area or restrict someone from the area.  This is just a security
for any unforeseen problems in the future.



All very nice I can hardly think of a remote reason to not do this.  One
issue though, as these sort of groups continue to pop-up I can see a bit of
a maintenance issue with the lugnet.org expanding to cover other contries
and local areas.  The other issue would be when do you include a group and
what criteria do you use?

That's a tough one.  Larry's suggestion about a "tangible manifestation" in
<http://www.lugnet.com/org/us/?n=180> sounds like a great general starting
point to me.  :)


Is a web site a must?

Not IMHO...  In fact, if a group was having trouble raising money for a
domain or didn't have anyone with the expertise to set up a free geocities
site or other technical things like that, the group (assuming it had a
"tangible manifestation" could even just point people at the /org/us/xyzpdq/
area on LUGNET as their starting point or web site if they wanted to, until
they had a real site).  In other words, a little mini-website on LUGNET just
for them would be an automatic freebie for any group making the leap into
existence.


Does the group have to meet at least once?

That's a great question.  From my point of view, things I'd look for as
"tangible manifestations" are things like an actual count of people (say, 4
or 5 or more) and a name and a purpose and a geographical area, etc.


This all sounds great.  These were more just constructive questions more than
anything else.  I definitly don't think a web site is a necessity although I
don't think just because someone says that they are starting a group an area
should be set up.  I am sure you would not let this happen anyway but I just
thought I would bring it up.


Eric K.

The New England LEGO Users Group
http://www.nelug.org/



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(...) Say, Eric, how do you maintain NELUG's member list? (Add new people's names, keep track of their email addresses, list their websites, etc.) It just occurred to me when I saw this page, (URL) LUGNET could help automate some of those sorts of (...) (25 years ago, 23-Nov-99, to lugnet.org.us)

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