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Just thought i'd test my new .sig file in rtlToronto, just 'cause I like annoying those closest to me... (2 URLs) Sparky's Space--Where Sparky has his Space... (21 years ago, 28-May-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
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(...) As a person that reads the rtl group through email, I can see the FTX stuff getting very annoying. :-) All I get to see is the codes. And it's wrapping the urls enough that the mail client doesn't interpret the links. So how does this FTX (...) (21 years ago, 28-May-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) This is [bold]. <lets you link to a web site> <<lets you show the viewers (using the web browser to see the picture right away)>> see the FTX guide... (21 years ago, 28-May-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) from the web-interface, it looks very cool. Nice Job. Ben (21 years ago, 28-May-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
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(...) Hmm, I guess not!! :-) Except of cource if I reply to it with the web interface. Derek (21 years ago, 28-May-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
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(...) It seems like there's a "is this FTX?" bit set for each message. Hence, every message is either flagged as plain text or as FTX. Since yours (I assume) comes in via SMTP, I think it must get automatically set to be plain text rather than FTX. (...) (21 years ago, 28-May-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Not any more it isn't. :-) (...) I'm using email to post these messages. So far I haven't found anything that explains how you turn FTX on for email. Derek (21 years ago, 28-May-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) well, I think it is because FTX is a resident "interpretive program" for LUGNET. The cool and easy effects happen only if you are using the web interface. Ben (21 years ago, 28-May-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) It's a Content-Type header. The content type is set to 'x-ftx'...although this is causing some trouble for people so it'll probably change to 'text/plain' and a different header would be used. (...) If your newsreader or e-mail editor allows (...) (21 years ago, 28-May-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Take 2... I like it Todd, don't change a thing... I notice that web-links in indented messages (from posting replies) aren't actually underlining... but I'm sure someone mentioned that elsewhere... Take care and keep up the great work. The (...) (21 years ago, 28-May-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
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(...) Does it? From the sounds of things it seemed like people who read posts via NNTP or SMTP were just seeing the raw FTX codes rather than the real text-- is that only in some readers? IE is there something out there that recognizes that [foobar] (...) (21 years ago, 28-May-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I mean that sentences are still perfectly readable. (...) Right -- it's just an extension to plain text. (...) Not any more than a newsreader should recognize that: hello I'm going to *shout* now should change to: hello I'm going to shout now (...) (21 years ago, 28-May-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, lugnet.publish)
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(...) This is not about viewing, obviously there aren't any FTX capable mail readers out there. Its about posting. I'd like to be able to post FTX through mail. (or at least maintain the FTX formating in messages I reply to.) Todd has mentioned that (...) (21 years ago, 28-May-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Interestingly enough my Outlook Express with the AddOn OE-Quotefix by Dominik Jain ((URL) showed your *shout* in boldface. Also _underline_ gets underlined for real. Unfortunately the Quotefix conventions for /italics/ and *boldface* don't (...) (21 years ago, 28-May-03, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Hey, that looks like a pretty neat program. If I ever go back to the DOS world, I'll definitely install that on OE. (...) I'm curious what Quotefix shows you for each of the following lines...could you tell me what it shows? My *all-time* (...) (21 years ago, 28-May-03, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) I recommend it! So far it has given me no trouble, only benefits. BTW, Windows is no longer (since W98?) in the DOS world, the two have separated. On WinXP you can hardly say you have a DOS world... (...) all-time boldface Star Wars italics (...) (21 years ago, 29-May-03, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) [...] (...) Mozilla does this too (the *bold* and _underline_ and /italics/ convention, and the smileys). But I don't use Mozilla on Lugnet. I agree that FTX should translate {} and [] to // and ** when displaying in plain text, and I'm *not* (...) (21 years ago, 29-May-03, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) The problem with that is that articles are stored in the news server in their raw original format only. When they're displayed by the web interface, and the FTX content is rendered into HTML for viewing on a web browser, it's done so (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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I noticed that there are messages in the lugnet web interface that don't show up in my newsreader (Mozilla 1.4b) This thread for example. 18 messages via the web interface and 13 via newsreader (prior to this post). Anyone else see this behaviour? (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Rob, I think it has to do with "follow-up's" I seem to remember that at some point this thread go spun off to alt.nude.publish, or some such, and in the real world of lugnet ALL those threads show up, but when you set your VERY COOL non IE (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I think you'll find too many anomalies if FTX supports // and ** directly. You have to also make sure you don't FTX format text that is not intended to be FTX formatted. Some examples to consider follow. For slashes: Valid web addresses: (URL) (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) There goes the neibourhood.... :) welcome back Chris! Jeff VW (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) That's what I used to think too -- but I'm not so sure anymore... (...) the double slash and (2) the http: prefix. (...) I've never seen anyone write anything like that before. But in any case, it's got two leading slashes instead of one. (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) Since you don't think most of the above are problems because they are not on word boandaries, how do you reconcile that with FTX's support for bolding, italicizing, or underlining part of a word, such as in the example in the FTX quick start (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) If // and ** proved superior to {} and [], then going back and removing {} and [] (and of course automatically converting existing pages to // and **) would certainly be an option. (...) But it's only an issue under one obscure set of (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) I'm not sure what your above comment has to do with FTX supporting non-word aligned positions for the formatting characters, no matter which character set is used. I was attempting to point out that // and ** would seem to be more troublesome (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) Oh I agree that // and ** are potentially more troublesome than {} and [] in normal text -- and that's why {} and [] were chosen instead. But I think the "troublesome" part may be entirely solveable from a coding standpoint. (...) It depends. (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) Can't speak for Mozilla, but OEQuotefix doesn't react on the above line (or any other of Brian's suggestions), it seems to only process special characters at the beginning, and ending, of a word, and does nothing if special chars overlap, like (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jun-03, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) What NNTP server do you use? I was under the impression that it was written in Perl itself. [...] (...) How about a different interpretation - // and ** (and don't forget __ for underlining) might not be interpreted the same as the {} and [] (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) CNews. (...) Doesn't that look a bit redundant? /italics/ and *boldface* What do underlined underlines look like? Like this?-- _N_ew _E_ngland _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup Not sure how either any of those are an improvement. --Todd (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.admin.nntp, FTX)
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(...) I see. With extensive modifications, I assume? I'm sure there's a way to link libperl.so to CNews but that could be unweildy to say the least. (...) Sorry I can't view the FTX results of that on my browser. But I assume that's right. (...) I (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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