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Re: // and ** vs {} and [] (was: testing in rtl...)
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Sat, 31 May 2003 03:17:50 GMT
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In lugnet.publish, Todd Lehman wrote:
In lugnet.publish, Brian H. Nielsen wrote:
Since you don't think most of the above are problems because they are not on
word boandaries, how do you reconcile that with FTX's support for bolding,
italicizing, or underlining part of a word, such as in the example in the FTX
quick start page?  Are you planning on removing that capability?

If // and ** proved superior to {} and [], then going back and removing {} and
[] (and of course automatically converting existing pages to // and **) would
certainly be an option.

   I'm not sure what your above comment has to do with FTX supporting non-word
aligned positions for the formatting characters, no matter which character set
is used.  I was attempting to point out that // and ** would seem to be more
troublesome since they are more common than {} and [] in normal text.

   My other point was to ask for clarification of whether or not you were going
to remove support for non-word aligned formatting characters.  I got the
impression from your prior examples that you were considering only formatting
characters that were word-aligned, unlike current FTX support for non-word
aligned formatting characters.

Posters having to go back and clean up formatting in messages they are
quoting seems like a major inconvenience.  No matter what characters FTX
supports.

But it's only an issue under one obscure set of circumstances:  if (1) you
are posting a reply to a plain-text message, and (2) you are posting your
reply in FTX, and (3) the message you're replying to happens to contain
instances of {} or [] or || and you don't want those to be misinterpreted as
italics, bold, or computer text, or a <> surrounding a non-URL and you don't
want that to be misinterpreted as a URL.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but in all
other cases, there's no need to clean up anything.

   Well, I was trying to put that in the context of it being more onerous if the
formatting characters // and ** are supported.  They would seem to be more
likely to need cleaning up, and less obvious.  Posters who do not take the time
to study and learn the in's and out's of FTX might get frustrated faster and
possibly be more reluctant to reply to FTX formatted messages.

   I havn't tried replying in plain-text to an FTX formatted message, so I don't
know what kind of cleaning up would have to be done in that case.  If you're
asserting that no clean up would be needed, that is good.

Brian H. Nielsen



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  Re: // and ** vs {} and [] (was: testing in rtl...)
 
(...) Oh I agree that // and ** are potentially more troublesome than {} and [] in normal text -- and that's why {} and [] were chosen instead. But I think the "troublesome" part may be entirely solveable from a coding standpoint. (...) It depends. (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.admin.nntp)

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  Re: // and ** vs {} and [] (was: testing in rtl...)
 
(...) If // and ** proved superior to {} and [], then going back and removing {} and [] (and of course automatically converting existing pages to // and **) would certainly be an option. (...) But it's only an issue under one obscure set of (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.admin.nntp)

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