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Re: rtlToronto, the Road Ahead/VM Questions
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Wed, 21 Aug 2002 13:14:30 GMT
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Matthias, I can answer some of these questions.
> In no particular order, here they are:
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> 1) If one wants to have the participant play some sort of game with
> the possibility of winning 50% of the current kitty, would this even
> be legal? (in a law-and-order sense)
Legal..... I can safely say NO. if you built a slot machine then
technically you would be breaking the gaming laws.
THAT BEING SAID: this was going to be my idea. I was going to build a
slot machine. i have NO DOUBT that even with a "gaming officer" in the
room a VERY strong case could be made. and it is simple.
-the machines we are setting up will only be up for a few hours THEN
DISASSEMBLED.
-ALL $$ will go to charity so no one is going to profit personally
I'd also bet that if someone (a cop, a bylaw officer ect) would not want
to be on the headlines the next day if they read:
BUSTED by cops.
Lego Club raises money for charity
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> 2) How are we keeping score? Obviously on the basis that whoever
> collects the most money at the end of the day wins, but what if the
> person enters more than one machine? Do we add them all up?
NO. the single machine who raises the most money wins. no different if
you built more than one robot for bridge building.
> 3) What if a machine does more than one function or vends more than
> one commodity? Is this fundamentally different than having two
> separate machines?
no. if one machine does more than one thing... fine. dispense coke AND
make it a slot machine for all i care.
> 4) If it is, where is the line between having one machine and having
> two? Because they obtain their moniey through separate slots? What if
> it's one slot with a button to select which game/vend you want? Must
> the money be kept in separate bins?
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> 5) If we decide that separate machines must be tallied separately,
> what happens if I have an RCX in one machine flash a light in the
> other and vice-versa? Are they one machine now?
you are starting to add to the RTLeffect(tm) see earlier posts.
http://news.lugnet.com/org/ca/rtltoronto/?n=5182
many of these scenarios are just not going to happen. sure they !MIGHT!
happen but i feel we can safely deal with them as they come up.
I really want to get away from creating a ton of rules to prevent the
off chance that someone comes up with a fibre weapon and can drop from
the ceiling.........
more rules just stifles creativity.
> I would suggest that the winner be *whomever* collects the most money
> and not which machine collects it. This would settle some of these
> questions while rewarding builders who put more time into two or more
> machines with radically different designs who would otherwise only be
> recognized on the basis of whichever design was more popular, not on
> the total effort.
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> 6) Seriously. Has anyone confirmed that groups selling things
> (anything, for any reason) is actually OK with the Library? I wouldn't
> be a bit surprised if there were regulations forbidding the practice.
when i told the librarian of my plans for the next game he just smiled.
the smile was the same smile i see all the time. "..oh you build robots
out of lego..." When I told Bill about the vending machine and
donation to charity he did not even BLINK. he just had that same grin.
(of course he was watching a bridge event at the time.......
> 7) On a similar note: It seems not to be a well known fact, but it's
> actually illegal for people who hold garage sales to sell hot-dogs
> without a permit. It's amazing how many people actually do it. Does
> anyone know the regulations regarding the vending of food? I know
> pre-packaged food is OK, but where does this leave someone who wants
> to vend candies? Sure Zellers may sell it in bags of 100 pcs, but when
> they're dispensed, they won't be wrapped. I just wonder if there are
> any regulations applicable to such things as bubble-gum machines and
> their manufacturers or operators. I could well imagine that there
> might be reglations such as any metal parts coming in contact with
> unwrapped food be made of stainless steel, for example. I wonder what
> the health department would say to unwrapped food in contact with ABS
> that's been used god knows how many times and probably never washed.
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IF you want to vend something soft and squishy AND have it contact your
RCX then fine. you also have to think that how many people would want
to eat a plain unwrapped hot dog as vended by your bricks...... part of
the point to this is that because real people with real coins will be
using these real world common sense applies. you can have the BEST hot
dog vending machine in the room and i might even pay the $$ to see it
vend BUT i will not eat it.
Chris
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