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Re: Back, to, life, back, to, re-a-li-tay
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Sat, 8 Jun 2002 05:20:33 GMT
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Benjamin Medinets writes:
I have no real opinion, but I'd want to hear people debate about it before
we decide one way or another.

What?? No Opinion Calum....
What about this??

"No external power is available-your entry must be powered by RCX internal
batteries or battery boxes. Stored energy devices (ie, a compressor tank
filled with air or extended rubber bands) are allowed, however, they must be
of Lego origin. "

That's the current rule, but it's obvious that Iain wants the rule
changed-and I don't really have any personal opinion on it.  The rules
change as people start working on their robots and realize the design
limitations inherent in the problem space.  Every contest has a moving
ruleset to some degree, especially once you get past the simple kind of
robotics challenges out there and the rtlToronto contests get harder and harder.

Personally, I think the wire hanging off the RCX would somewhat hinder
the transition of movement of your 'bot.

That makes the assumption that Iain wants a moving robot.

It's an easy mistake to make in designing a contest-assuming a certain
design solution given the problem.  I try very hard to make sure we don't
prescribe a recommended way of doing a task via the rules.

But here's another issue....what happens if another opponent's 'bot....
cough cough (Chris') bot starts to have a brain fart, and instead of picking
up the flag after crossing the gap, takes a wrong turn, and then.....
your wire is responsible for clothes-lining the 'bot....
bottom-line: it might interfere with the spirit of the game.

The latter statement has nothing to do with the scenario you've described.
If the spirit of the game is to build a robot that can deal with a large
gap, no, using AC power is not contradictory.

In the case presented above, Chris' robot gets no points for anyways for not
touching the flag, so whether or not you hit him is moot. Given that Iain's
robot goes towards the flag from the opposite side, the chances are slim.

But your situation overall is a valid one, Ben.  There was a short debate
about fibre weapons probably around rtl3 when JeffE proposed a rule against
them, and it's probably a good idea.  How about AC power is okay if your
robot doesn't leave the 18" start square?

Calum



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"Calum Tsang" <tsangc@mie.utoronto.ca> wrote in message news:GxDG69.86@lugnet.com... (...) SHHhhhhhh! :) (...) Yes! I'm very glad that you make that effort, too. It encourages design... variability. Or something. It lets people do new ways. And (...) (22 years ago, 8-Jun-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

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(...) What?? No Opinion Calum.... What about this?? "No external power is available-your entry must be powered by RCX internal batteries or battery boxes. Stored energy devices (ie, a compressor tank filled with air or extended rubber bands) are (...) (22 years ago, 8-Jun-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

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