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| | | Well I now have an expensive piece of paper that says when I pay even more I'll have a brand new iMac. Here's what I'm getting: 20" iMac G5 1Gb RAM, 2x512Mb 250Gb Hard Drive Bluetooth Final Cut Express 2 Video Cable It should come in sometime in the (...) (20 years ago, 18-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | Re: iMac —Calum Tsang
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| | | | | (...) Sigh. That's like buying an SUV and complaining gas is expensive. You knew the Mac has little applications support from mainstream vendors. You knew that going in. You even paid your turtleneck yuppie tax to get the hardware! Bunch of Mac (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | Re: iMac —Derek Raycraft
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| | | | | | (...) We're taking over the world 1 user at a time. HA HA HA HA! Actually I find it interesting that 5 people at our office have purchased iMacs in the last month. And they are all techies, none of these artsy fartsy types. :-) Derek (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: iMac —Dan Boger
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| | | | | | | (...) I was actually thinking about it too - the next computer I get (probably a laptop sometime next year) might be some sort of mac thing. Haven't touched macs since '96 or so, but with the built in unix, they're becoming pretty tempting. Oh, (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: iMac —Ray Sanders
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| | | | | | | | (...) OS-X is awesome. At least I think so... :) In 1.5 years of using OS-X I've had 1 (count em folks only one) kernel panic[1]. Very stable OS. I'm coding against J2SE 1.4.1 on a lowly iMac G3 (using Project Builder, not even XCode) and I'm very (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: iMac —Calum Tsang
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| | | | | | (...) I'm all for cool fast UNIX hardware. Hell, I had an Indy R4600 on my desk back at Nortel and a NeXTstation Turbo at home. I own the Apple Industrial Design coffee table book. Just don't complain to me you're not supported like those other (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: iMac —Dan Boger
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| | | | | | | (...) But only while whining, right? right?!? (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: iMac —Calum Tsang
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| | | | | | | | (...) That's right--whining about stuff like: -Lack of hardware support. Stuff like: Dear nVidia and ATI. Please release all of your hard earned IP that cost you millions to develop over to us so we can write drivers for our niche operating system. (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: iMac —Derek Raycraft
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| | | | | | (...) I have every right to complain if I'm not support. Given that I'm well aware of how easy it can be to create cross platform software. However I won't be wining about it. Derek (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: iMac —Calum Tsang
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| | | | | | (...) It's easy to create software, it's hard to support it ongoing. Both from a development standpoint as well as actual product support. I've seen it from personal experience. Two architectures is not just the obvious stuff like CPU and OS but (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: iMac —Derek Raycraft
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| | | | | | (...) I've also seen it from personal experience. We support software on not 1 or 2 different platforms, but 10-15 different platforms. (...) There are fewer and fewer of this difference these days. It's aways getting better. (...) None of those (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: iMac —Calum Tsang
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| | | | | | (...) The two laptops I brought over were Thinkpad T23's which are 1.14Ghz P3Mobiles with 256MB of RAM each. If that's not enough for Java, I don't know what is. In case my memory serves me incorrectly, at worst, they were T21's, which are 800Mhz P3 (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: iMac —Derek Raycraft
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| | | | | | (...) Oh, forgot about trying out those laptops. But then the biggest problem we had with those was freeing up the serial port from multiple levels of security, networking and anti-virus software that was installed on them. I'm surprised anyone (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: iMac —David Koudys
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| | | | | | | In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Derek Raycraft wrote: <snip> (...) Our very own o.t-d :) So I work for a major school bus transporation company as a 'tech support' guy. And, having 500+ systems in the field, occasionally we will get the odd "Imminent (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: iMac —Rob Antonishen
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| | | | | | (...) As I noted in (URL) some of the software Lego has outsourced was to a company called Qube, using a cross platform "Q Engine" that runs on Windows, Linux, X-Box and PS2 platforms. Check out the old post for the links. Pretty cool stuff for (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: iMac —Calum Tsang
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| | | | | | | (...) When you factor in the display is not OpenGL or X but instead, Display Postscript...far. Calum (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: iMac —Derek Raycraft
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Ya it's too bad the Mac doesn't support OpenGL. (URL) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: iMac —Don Heyse
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| | | | | | | | (...) Sorry to butt in on a .org post (part of this thread crossed over into .geek and thus caught my attention) but that sounds like a bunch of FUD. If you look at the green layer in this article it clearly shows opengl alongside quartz and (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: iMac —Calum Tsang
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| | | | | | | | (...) Alas, you are all correct. I will now go and hang my head in shame and mock only from afar. Calum (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: iMac —Derek Raycraft
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| | | | | | (...) If it runs on Linux there is a good chance it runs under OSX already. I know the Mac owners here at the office are contently building and running Linux distributions on their Macs. Unfortunately, since I'm still waiting for my Macs, *I want my (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | Re: iMac —Greg Hyland
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| | | | (...) But you still have a PC. Being a Mac use since '93, I bought a used PC laptop that I devote 100% to Mindstorms porgramming and LEGO Studios stuff (I know... I'm the only person in the world over 8 that animates with the LEGO software). But (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | Re: iMac —David Koudys
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| | | | | (...) (URL) videos done using LEGO software... (though they are exceptionally big...) And I'm over 8 (though some might dispute my mental age being greater than that...) (...) Dave 'PC' K (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | Re: iMac —Derek Raycraft
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| | | | (...) Yep, I still have a PC. Soon to be run with out a monitor, through virtual desktop. Well I'll still have a monitor around for Games, but nothing else will need it. (...) Oh ya, I've researched everything I want to be able to do with the Mac. (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | Re: iMac —Greg Hyland
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| | | | (...) Not that many games for the Mac (although you can play Peasent's Quest), so I picked up this thing that you may have seen in stores. It's called a PlayStation 2. You can actually hook it up to your TV, so no need for a monitor. I think it's (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | Re: iMac —Derek Raycraft
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| | | | | (...) Not surprisingly I've been looking at consoles these days. Which is the one with the girl that kicks high. :-) The major thing I'll need to get use to is the controllers. I'm a keyboard and mouse player. I've always had trouble translating (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | Re: iMac —Chris Magno
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| | | | (...) All you Mac freaks are the same. As a card carrying member of the Local UNDEAD union, I personally take offence, and along with all my undead brothers and sisters, I must say SHAME!!! SHAME!! (pump fist in air) SHAME!! (pump fist in air) Chris (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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