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Re: Desktops with SCSI drives (was Re: Desktops with SCSI RAM?)
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Sun, 28 May 2000 17:27:54 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.geek, Mike Stanley writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.geek, Jim Hughes writes:
> > However I disagree with Mike on Gateway, I think Gateways suck, have had
> > uniformily bad experiances with them and if forced would choose Dell.
> 
> I didn't say anything about the machines themselves, I just relayed some
> experiences we'd had with the company at work.  As a company Gateway is much
> easier to deal with when it comes to getting what you want in a desktop
> machine, in my experience.  I'd choose the Dells over the Gateways also for
> the machines I have to support - in fact all of the machines I directly
> support ARE Dell machines, with the exception of a new server we got for free
> from Gateway/ALR and have since beefed up.
> 
> Gateway seems much more eager to please us, which makes sense considering we
> as an institution probably spend upwards of a few million dollars per year on
> machines.  Dell wants our business but doesn't seem to be willing to fight for
> it too much, which is what the last two rounds of purchases for my dept
> proved.  After hearing a Dell rep say they couldn't even quote a machine we
> wanted in the price range we were shooting for, that supposedly they would
> lose money on it, they came back with a better machine at in that price range,
> proving the sales rep's lie.


Yeah, all of my experiances have been with single home machines, I am sure
buying a whole department worth of machines is quite a different story.


> But if price and sales rep honesty were not an issue, I'd stick with Dell
> also, for business machines.  I unwisely chose a Gateway for my own work
> desktop last time.  Won't be making that mistake again - their website and
> support site sucks and its a pain to get the right info from them.  Dell beats
> them hands down for that.
> 
> But I wouldn't buy a machine for myself from either of them.  I'd buy from a
> local store (as in local custom shop, not a dept store) a long time before I'd
> buy from them.

I agree with you there. My first 2 computers were purchased from a local mom
and pop computer store. since then everything has been hand built.

> 
> > With the system you were describing keep in mind you are paying a severe
> > premium for the current fastest class of Pentium (e.g. my PIII was a pull and
> > cost me $150) and the monitor you will get will pretty much suck. My personal
> > opinion for a graphics workstation is to get the absolute best monitor you • can
> > afford at the expense of the fast processor. Processor speed can be largely
> > made up with alot of RAM but there is nothing you can do about a bad monitor.
> 
> Yup.  You never want to buy the best (or even right next to the best)
> processor - you're paying WAY too much for it during the time that it is the
> best.  Monitors make all the difference in the world for me.  My Optiquest V95
> is just barely tolerable after coming from work and my nice Mitsubishi 21"
> Diamondtron.  In fact, if I buy anything else computer-related this year it
> will be a nice 21" monitor.

I have a 17" Sony 200PS, cost me $850 several years ago, best computer
peripheral I have ever had. If I were in the market for a monitor today I would
seriously consider an Apple flatscreen LCD.

Jim



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  Re: Desktops with SCSI drives (was Re: Desktops with SCSI RAM?)
 
(...) I didn't say anything about the machines themselves, I just relayed some experiences we'd had with the company at work. As a company Gateway is much easier to deal with when it comes to getting what you want in a desktop machine, in my (...) (26 years ago, 28-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)

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